Can someone identify this coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by scotts1, Apr 19, 2015.

  1. scotts1

    scotts1 Well-Known Member

    I went through a pile of ancient coins at yesterday's coin show and picked some out. I recognized many of them, but I'm not sure what this one is. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  4. scotts1

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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The images you posted are very dark, so I am having difficulty reading the legends. When you say it's not an exact match, what is different? I feel confident we will ID this coin before the day is out.
     
  6. scotts1

    scotts1 Well-Known Member

    The differences I notice are pretty subtle. For example, the "K" on the reverse of my coin is in between the 2nd and 3rd lines (I don't know what they actually are). On the coin you've found, it's in between the 1st and 2nd. Also, my coin has 2 circles (?) on all 3 lines while yours appears to have 2 on the 2nd line and 1 on the 1st and 3rd lines.
    Sorry if that sounds like nonsense to you, but I don't know what else to call them.

    I also tried taking some pictures with a camera in direct light instead of using the scanner like I did in my first post. Are these pictures any better?
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    These images are much better. Now I can have another look see.

    BTW, here is a Severus Alexander of mine from Nicaea. It's not the same, but once again similar. Mine has the laureate bust while yours has a radiate bust:
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    SEVERUS ALEXANDER
    AE20
    OBVERSE: M AVP CEVH ALEXANDROC AV, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: N-IK-AI-E / WN between and beneath three standards
    Struck at Nicaea, 222-235 AD
    3.8g, 20mm
    BMC 103

    Notice that the "lines" on the reverse you refer to are actually standards. Yours is in much better condition. Because the lettering is Greek, and I do not read Greek, it makes it somewhat more difficult. However, let me see what I can find.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not 100%, but I think I may have found it. I believe it is a Gordian III: http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/gordian_III/_nicaea_BMC_125.jpg

    Gordian III. AE19. 3.45 gr. Nicaea, Bithynia. 238-244 AD. M ANT GORDIANOS AV, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right / N-I-K-AI-EWN between and beneath three standards. BMC 125.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The new photos make all the difference! They read (in Greek) M ANT GORDIANOC. The way the city name was divided on the reverse was not consistent from die to die let alone from ruler to ruler. Most are common but Severus Alexander is most common. I do not own a Gordian III like this but will show a Severus Alexander and his mother Julia Mamaea. Note my Alexander has the entire reverse legend on one line with the last two letters formed into a ligature while the Mamaea has the last two letters on a second line below (mostly off flan on my poor specimen) as shown on Bing's coin. The original poster coin has the last three letters on the second line. This makes absolutely no difference in ancients. Each die was cut individually and the cutter did things as he saw fit at that moment.

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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You have to type fast to beat Bing! While talking about things that make no great matter please note my Alexander shows standards with an extra set of round elements on the standards compared to the others but they were much smaller to make room. Perhaps this sort of thing would be a massive interest in some coins but this is one of the most common and least in demand ancients out there and very few people show any interest in collecting them by variety. When there are a million types of ancients and only thousands of serious collectors a coin has to try harder to be interesting enough to attract people willing to pay extra even if a variation is super rare. I do not know what proportion of these show the extra row but it makes no difference until someone writes up the series and creates a demand for flyspeck variations.
     
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  11. scotts1

    scotts1 Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for helping! :)
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You're very welcome. Many of us enjoy attributing coins, so any others you may have or come across, bring 'em on.
     
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  13. no name2015

    no name2015 New Member

    Roman provincial coin of Severus Alexander 222-235 ad, legion standards on the reverse.
     
  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hi, @no name2015, welcome to the ancients board of CoinTalk.

    I think you'll find your experience to be better if you refrain from posting identifications and "values" for coins which were correctly identified months ago :).

    There are usually several "what is this coin" posts every week; perhaps you can wait for the next unknown and jump in with the answer at the appropriate time.
     
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