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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8228149, member: 26430"]Speaking of destructive v. non-destructive:</p><p><br /></p><p>While there is a lot that can be done with non-destructive analysis, and more all the time, I've been happy to pick up a few of the (wonderful) scraps from the destructive analysis. Both of the coins below are from Butcher and Ponting's (2014) book, <i>Metallurgy of Roman Silver Coinage, from the Reform of Nero to the Reforms of Trajan </i>-- as well as a number of associated articles. And previously Jyrki Muona's collection (and one also Orfew's).</p><p><br /></p><p>Mostly for the metallurgy they just needed to drill holes. But, at the expense of several dozen Roman denarii and other silver coins, they found that many of the long-held beliefs about the composition of Roman silver coins were grossly mistaken -- namely, the findings of Walker's studies, 1976-1978. After 40 years of being mistaken, they were able to provide a corrective. Importantly, the surface of the coins is often very different from the core (sometimes, I recall, because of what's happened to the coins from 1900 years in the soil, sometimes due to enrichment of the surfaces at the time of striking).</p><p><br /></p><p>The two coins below were important because the cross-sections allowed one to see exactly how the alloys varied between core and surface, and how they may have changed over time. Both of these coins were ex-Jyrki Muona Collection, later among 65 similar denarii sold by Berk, some of which were dispersed to other dealers.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Titus (M40) was previously [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] 's (I was delighted to get it in the group lot, and if you're seeing this, yes I did track down all the provenance info from your posts that CNG left out, so it's not lost!). The Otho (M16) I bought from HJB BBS 215.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second two photos are the "Before" photos from the Archaeology Data Service (UK) website, where Butcher & Ponting's dataset is housed: <a href="https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/coins_lt_2005/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/coins_lt_2005/" rel="nofollow">https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/coins_lt_2005/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>(Credit: I believe the cut Titus photo is the one [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] used here on CT when he shared the coin -- I hope that's okay! Or perhaps Marc Breitsprecher's in between HJB and Orfew.)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1446227[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446228[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446230[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446231[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8228149, member: 26430"]Speaking of destructive v. non-destructive: While there is a lot that can be done with non-destructive analysis, and more all the time, I've been happy to pick up a few of the (wonderful) scraps from the destructive analysis. Both of the coins below are from Butcher and Ponting's (2014) book, [I]Metallurgy of Roman Silver Coinage, from the Reform of Nero to the Reforms of Trajan [/I]-- as well as a number of associated articles. And previously Jyrki Muona's collection (and one also Orfew's). Mostly for the metallurgy they just needed to drill holes. But, at the expense of several dozen Roman denarii and other silver coins, they found that many of the long-held beliefs about the composition of Roman silver coins were grossly mistaken -- namely, the findings of Walker's studies, 1976-1978. After 40 years of being mistaken, they were able to provide a corrective. Importantly, the surface of the coins is often very different from the core (sometimes, I recall, because of what's happened to the coins from 1900 years in the soil, sometimes due to enrichment of the surfaces at the time of striking). The two coins below were important because the cross-sections allowed one to see exactly how the alloys varied between core and surface, and how they may have changed over time. Both of these coins were ex-Jyrki Muona Collection, later among 65 similar denarii sold by Berk, some of which were dispersed to other dealers. The Titus (M40) was previously [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] 's (I was delighted to get it in the group lot, and if you're seeing this, yes I did track down all the provenance info from your posts that CNG left out, so it's not lost!). The Otho (M16) I bought from HJB BBS 215. The second two photos are the "Before" photos from the Archaeology Data Service (UK) website, where Butcher & Ponting's dataset is housed: [URL]https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/coins_lt_2005/[/URL] (Credit: I believe the cut Titus photo is the one [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] used here on CT when he shared the coin -- I hope that's okay! Or perhaps Marc Breitsprecher's in between HJB and Orfew.) [ATTACH=full]1446227[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446228[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446230[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1446231[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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