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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2354684, member: 1892"]Yeah, this is where semantics is getting in the way. The trouble is, our hobby is by definition one of precision. The sole difference between a face-value coin and a six-figure error/rarity could be a feature only measurable under high magnification, for instance, like 0.2mm differences in date digit locations.</p><p><br /></p><p>So we have to balance precision in language against peoples' natural unwillingness (apparently) to employ such precision. If we were talking chemistry instead of coins such precision would be a universally-accepted standard. And I don't get that; we'll argue the difference between MS67 and MS68 all day with everyone on the same page, but the moment we start trying to effect a common definition for a given term, nobody wants to conform. Heck, we argue the definition of "cud" incessantly even though that's a term no less precise than a chemical formula.</p><p><br /></p><p>"Luster," to me, is solely and purely a function of the surface irregularities of a newly-struck coin. Once it's circulated enough to wear down those irregularities, the shine is no longer something I would use the term "luster" to describe. A sufficiently-worn die doesn't strike "lustrous" coins at all, even though what they *do* strike isn't exactly dull in finish. The whole point of me trying to be so precise is to forestall ultimately time-wasting (although educational) discussions like this one.</p><p><br /></p><p>This kind of argument really didn't exist in numismatics before the Internet. It's only happening because newer collectors are uninterested in learning the true precision of the hobby, and society as a whole is so much more individualistic these days that people just_don't_grok the efficacy of holding to that precision. How many electrons - and how much time - have we wasted on this one thread?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2354684, member: 1892"]Yeah, this is where semantics is getting in the way. The trouble is, our hobby is by definition one of precision. The sole difference between a face-value coin and a six-figure error/rarity could be a feature only measurable under high magnification, for instance, like 0.2mm differences in date digit locations. So we have to balance precision in language against peoples' natural unwillingness (apparently) to employ such precision. If we were talking chemistry instead of coins such precision would be a universally-accepted standard. And I don't get that; we'll argue the difference between MS67 and MS68 all day with everyone on the same page, but the moment we start trying to effect a common definition for a given term, nobody wants to conform. Heck, we argue the definition of "cud" incessantly even though that's a term no less precise than a chemical formula. "Luster," to me, is solely and purely a function of the surface irregularities of a newly-struck coin. Once it's circulated enough to wear down those irregularities, the shine is no longer something I would use the term "luster" to describe. A sufficiently-worn die doesn't strike "lustrous" coins at all, even though what they *do* strike isn't exactly dull in finish. The whole point of me trying to be so precise is to forestall ultimately time-wasting (although educational) discussions like this one. This kind of argument really didn't exist in numismatics before the Internet. It's only happening because newer collectors are uninterested in learning the true precision of the hobby, and society as a whole is so much more individualistic these days that people just_don't_grok the efficacy of holding to that precision. How many electrons - and how much time - have we wasted on this one thread?[/QUOTE]
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