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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2352774, member: 24314&quot;]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> OMG.&nbsp; I see we are at it again. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; NOTE to CT members: My comments here are not personal.&nbsp; I&#039;m just trying my best to drag one of my three favorite posters into the present time. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You are comparing TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORIGINAL, MINT MADE LUSTER that don&#039;t even look the same!&nbsp; I made an attempt (Post#7) to clarify some of the statements you posted earlier in this thread (Post#6).&nbsp; Unfortunately, my description about how RADIAL DIE ERROSION causes cartwheel luster was challenged and you have continued to post more misinformation.&nbsp; Did you EVEN BOTHER to hold a proof coin to test the veracity of my statements in Post#&amp;?&nbsp; OF COURSE YOU DIDN&#039;T - you have a closed mind. The reflection of light from a proof is spread out into a BROAD FLASH that <span style="color: rgb(0, 89, 179)">anyone can see moves around the coin&#039;s surface in a SIMILAR (but much wider) &quot;cartwheel.&quot;&nbsp; It is NOT narrow.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 89, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">The following information came directly (ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS) from the mouths of U.S. Mint employees on the coining floor (Phila. &amp; Denver) and in the engraving shop (Phila.); ANA grading class instructors, and U.S. Treasury Dept. personnel in DC.&nbsp; Learn it!</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">METAL HAS LUSTER.&nbsp; Blanks have luster.&nbsp; Planchets have luster.&nbsp; Metal coin dies have luster (Even old rusty ones in the Philadelphia Mint&#039;s die closet.&nbsp; Struck coins have luster.&nbsp; The luster on each of these metal objects IS as DIFFERENT as the luster from the first struck coin from a die and the last one it makes. It IS as DIFFERENT as that of a Proof coin and a Mint State example.&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">The normal &quot;cartwheel&quot; luster we all speak about from coins is caused by die erosion.&nbsp; This means that the LUSTER from a coin made with a fresh die is not eroded enough to produce the LUSTER on other coins after it starts to deteriorate.&nbsp; This is a fact.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b30000">That is all informed numismatists (including J.D.) believe, know, and teach!&nbsp; </span>It&#039;s not &quot;rocket science.&quot;</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Next Subject:</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">(?)</span></p><p><br /></p><p>OK: Please give me the title of the book you are quoting J.D.&#039;s words from.&nbsp; Is it the PCGS Grading Guide?&nbsp; That is the ONLY PLACE I am aware of that he has written about grading.&nbsp; At the moment, I am not able to reach my copy and could not reach him by phone.&nbsp; So, if that is the book, I&#039;ll pick it apart this weekend!&nbsp; I have NEVER, EVER seen any book or article stating your view.&nbsp; I have NEVER, EVER heard a professional grader/authenticator/class instructor confirm the OPINION you hold either.</p><p><br /></p><p>IMO, you very confused about &quot;luster.&quot;&nbsp; I&#039;m not going to discuss this again HERE as your opinions seem to be set into stone.&nbsp; I do wish in the future you would keep many of them to yourself as NO INFORMATION IS BETTER THAN INCORRECT INFORMATION.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 89, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 89, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 89, 179)">&nbsp; </span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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