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<p>[QUOTE="Paul M., post: 2351282, member: 73165"]Yes, exactly. It's as if the planchet were made of very hard Silly Putty. You don't need to heat it up to strike a design on it with a modern coin press. (Flans of ancient coins were heated before striking, but that's because they were struck by hand... literally a guy with a hammer would strike the top die.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Those peaks and valleys come about because the dies get worn. The first few strikes off a fresh die will always appear prooflike (likely with no visible die polishing lines, either) because the dies haven't worn enough to impart the type of flow lines that create cartwheel luster.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Forget about people arguing over whether the coin has cartwheel luster or not. The fact is, the sun rays on that coin are far, far too large to create a cartwheel luster effect. The surface irregularities that create luster are much smaller than that. <i>That's</i> why cleaning and dipping can take away the luster from a coin. They do so in different ways, but the fundamental reason it happens is because the surface of the coin is being disrupted. It's also why luster breaks can point to wear on the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I wish I could find a really good video that shows a coin with luster. In the meantime, do what [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] said and take a coin (preferably an uncirculated coin) and rotate it under a desk lamp in a relatively dark room. You should see the light reflect off the coin in a way that resembles two spokes of a wheel, and those spokes should rotate around the coin as you turn it under the light. That's luster.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paul M., post: 2351282, member: 73165"]Yes, exactly. It's as if the planchet were made of very hard Silly Putty. You don't need to heat it up to strike a design on it with a modern coin press. (Flans of ancient coins were heated before striking, but that's because they were struck by hand... literally a guy with a hammer would strike the top die.) Those peaks and valleys come about because the dies get worn. The first few strikes off a fresh die will always appear prooflike (likely with no visible die polishing lines, either) because the dies haven't worn enough to impart the type of flow lines that create cartwheel luster. Forget about people arguing over whether the coin has cartwheel luster or not. The fact is, the sun rays on that coin are far, far too large to create a cartwheel luster effect. The surface irregularities that create luster are much smaller than that. [i]That's[/i] why cleaning and dipping can take away the luster from a coin. They do so in different ways, but the fundamental reason it happens is because the surface of the coin is being disrupted. It's also why luster breaks can point to wear on the coin. I wish I could find a really good video that shows a coin with luster. In the meantime, do what [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] said and take a coin (preferably an uncirculated coin) and rotate it under a desk lamp in a relatively dark room. You should see the light reflect off the coin in a way that resembles two spokes of a wheel, and those spokes should rotate around the coin as you turn it under the light. That's luster.[/QUOTE]
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