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<p>[QUOTE="FreakyGsMom, post: 671010, member: 17127"]Fear not, Garrett and dare I say the coin are both safe.:whistle: He was wearing a R95 3M Particulate Respirator while torturing his latest coin victim. I am <b><u><i>NOT</i></u></b> encouraging anyone to try this at home, but after reading the comments following Garrett's post I thought a bit of clarification was in order. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> He read about microwaving coins in hydrogen peroxide on one of his metal detecting sites. I must admit that I'm quite amazed but the coin looks better now than it has since we've had it. Although, Ben Franklin is probably rolling over in his grave given what Garrett has put his coin through. It's a coin that has been nothing but a pain in the rear since we bought it and we had given completely up on it. The coin was bought because it was a R6 Fugio that Garrett really wanted in his collection. We knew it had verdigris to start with but thought the pros at NCS could help remove the green blob with conservation. After we bought it, we started out by submitting it to NCS for "conservation" and they charged us a small fortune and sent it back exactly like it was. (There are a couple of old threads documenting this coins life since we aquired it.) After conservation/slabbing/shipping fees were incurred we had added another hundred or so to the original $350 we paid and for this we had a really ugly green coin in a slab. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> He left it alone for a while, tried to sell it as NCS had left it and then gave up on selling it after spending another $30 in ebay listing fees. He put it in the safe and forgot about it. He (we) decided to crack the slab and try verdigone. The coin was just too far gone for Thad's stuff to work. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> We soaked it for a week in a sealed container changing the verdigone solution twice daily because the solution turned blue REALLY fast. I'm guessing the solution turned blue so quickly due to all of the verdigris on the coin so it was trying to work but it proved no match for our green blob. We went through a whole bottle of verdigone with our experiment. Don't think that I'm knocking Verdigone because we've had <u><b>GREAT</b></u> luck with using it on other coins. Using it as Thad intended it to be used on light verdigris and even moderate verdigris, but he didn't create or market it for heavy verdigris on 220 year old coins and he told us straight up that he didn't think it would help this particular coin so; no harm, no foul. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> He even gave G a break on the price of the order of Verdigone for his experiment. :thumb: BTW, Thad & Jim have been a big help in guiding G on his "coin experiments" and have helped keep he and I both safe. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Now, on to the boiling peroxide: the coin was placed in a 8 cup Pyrex measuring cup with 3/4 of a cup of a 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide. I microwaved it for about 2 minutes until the peroxide boiled. We left the coin in the solution until it cooled. BTW after the peroxide stopped boiling the old copper continued to simmer for a bit itself. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It was quite a sight. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I took pictures of the process so Garrett can post them if you would like to see before/during and after pictures. Once the peroxide had cooled the coin was removed and soaked in distilled water for an hour or so then while wearing a R95 mask and nitrile gloves <b>I</b> took it outside to the lanai, and transferred it to a pyrex container with xylene. After it soaked for a bit I then rinsed it and did a final soak in distilled water. We weren't about to risk using tap water on a coin that's been soaked for a week, boiled in a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution and then soaked in xylene. :bigeyes: :mouth: <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Believe it or not, the green was all gone and only a small amount of black remained in a few spots. The coin was the ugly bright orange/pink color that cleaned copper has. After it was dry we used a small amount of a mixture of Dellars diluted with petroleum jelly and gave it a quick rub down with that. Garrett isn't allowed to use any chemical other than acetone on his coins and he wears a R95 mask and nitrile gloves while doing that. When ever anything else is used his Dad or I do it for him. IMO him using a bit of acetone here and there probably isn't any more harmful to him than me dragging him to my nail appts for my manicure & pedicures. Have you guys smelled a nail salon??? Phew. If he were a girl (or a boy that wore nail polish <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) he'd be using acetone on his bare nails and skin so I don't have a problem with him using acetone with his mask and gloves on. If he didn't have asthma I personally would let him skip the mask.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm going to try and answer a few burning questions you might still have:<blockquote><p>Why buy a problem coin and go through all this? Live and learn. We won't make the same mistake twice. We had the coin and couldn't sell it as it was so we were stuck with it. Since it's ours to keep we figured what the heck. Don't worry; the coin WILL not be sold now that it's doctored. It's now a permanent part of the FREAKY COLLECTION. His last tortured coin was put in a contest. Hmmmm maybe......</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, the question that I feel most compelled to answer. Why microwave a shrimp cocktail from Publix? The $9.99 shrimp rings were buy one get one free a few weeks ago and I bought a whole bunch and froze them. Garrett eats one every other day so I saved a bundle buy stocking up and freezing them. I was giving it a headstart on defrosting by sticking it in the microwave for a minute. We're from Florida, we practically ARE shrimp, we would never eat a WARM shrimp cocktail. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> That would be like eating one of those garish GREEN key lime pies that people up north try to peddle as key lime pies. :kewl: REAL key lime pie isn't GREEN. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p>Did I cover it all? If you want to see pictures ask Garrett and kids I repeat <span style="color: Red"><u><i><b>DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!</b></i></u></span> :thumb:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="FreakyGsMom, post: 671010, member: 17127"]Fear not, Garrett and dare I say the coin are both safe.:whistle: He was wearing a R95 3M Particulate Respirator while torturing his latest coin victim. I am [B][U][I]NOT[/I][/U][/B] encouraging anyone to try this at home, but after reading the comments following Garrett's post I thought a bit of clarification was in order. ;) He read about microwaving coins in hydrogen peroxide on one of his metal detecting sites. I must admit that I'm quite amazed but the coin looks better now than it has since we've had it. Although, Ben Franklin is probably rolling over in his grave given what Garrett has put his coin through. It's a coin that has been nothing but a pain in the rear since we bought it and we had given completely up on it. The coin was bought because it was a R6 Fugio that Garrett really wanted in his collection. We knew it had verdigris to start with but thought the pros at NCS could help remove the green blob with conservation. After we bought it, we started out by submitting it to NCS for "conservation" and they charged us a small fortune and sent it back exactly like it was. (There are a couple of old threads documenting this coins life since we aquired it.) After conservation/slabbing/shipping fees were incurred we had added another hundred or so to the original $350 we paid and for this we had a really ugly green coin in a slab. :( He left it alone for a while, tried to sell it as NCS had left it and then gave up on selling it after spending another $30 in ebay listing fees. He put it in the safe and forgot about it. He (we) decided to crack the slab and try verdigone. The coin was just too far gone for Thad's stuff to work. :( We soaked it for a week in a sealed container changing the verdigone solution twice daily because the solution turned blue REALLY fast. I'm guessing the solution turned blue so quickly due to all of the verdigris on the coin so it was trying to work but it proved no match for our green blob. We went through a whole bottle of verdigone with our experiment. Don't think that I'm knocking Verdigone because we've had [U][B]GREAT[/B][/U] luck with using it on other coins. Using it as Thad intended it to be used on light verdigris and even moderate verdigris, but he didn't create or market it for heavy verdigris on 220 year old coins and he told us straight up that he didn't think it would help this particular coin so; no harm, no foul. :) He even gave G a break on the price of the order of Verdigone for his experiment. :thumb: BTW, Thad & Jim have been a big help in guiding G on his "coin experiments" and have helped keep he and I both safe. ;) Now, on to the boiling peroxide: the coin was placed in a 8 cup Pyrex measuring cup with 3/4 of a cup of a 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide. I microwaved it for about 2 minutes until the peroxide boiled. We left the coin in the solution until it cooled. BTW after the peroxide stopped boiling the old copper continued to simmer for a bit itself. :confused: It was quite a sight. :eek: I took pictures of the process so Garrett can post them if you would like to see before/during and after pictures. Once the peroxide had cooled the coin was removed and soaked in distilled water for an hour or so then while wearing a R95 mask and nitrile gloves [B]I[/B] took it outside to the lanai, and transferred it to a pyrex container with xylene. After it soaked for a bit I then rinsed it and did a final soak in distilled water. We weren't about to risk using tap water on a coin that's been soaked for a week, boiled in a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution and then soaked in xylene. :bigeyes: :mouth: :rolleyes: Believe it or not, the green was all gone and only a small amount of black remained in a few spots. The coin was the ugly bright orange/pink color that cleaned copper has. After it was dry we used a small amount of a mixture of Dellars diluted with petroleum jelly and gave it a quick rub down with that. Garrett isn't allowed to use any chemical other than acetone on his coins and he wears a R95 mask and nitrile gloves while doing that. When ever anything else is used his Dad or I do it for him. IMO him using a bit of acetone here and there probably isn't any more harmful to him than me dragging him to my nail appts for my manicure & pedicures. Have you guys smelled a nail salon??? Phew. If he were a girl (or a boy that wore nail polish :eek:) he'd be using acetone on his bare nails and skin so I don't have a problem with him using acetone with his mask and gloves on. If he didn't have asthma I personally would let him skip the mask. I'm going to try and answer a few burning questions you might still have:[INDENT]Why buy a problem coin and go through all this? Live and learn. We won't make the same mistake twice. We had the coin and couldn't sell it as it was so we were stuck with it. Since it's ours to keep we figured what the heck. Don't worry; the coin WILL not be sold now that it's doctored. It's now a permanent part of the FREAKY COLLECTION. His last tortured coin was put in a contest. Hmmmm maybe...... Now, the question that I feel most compelled to answer. Why microwave a shrimp cocktail from Publix? The $9.99 shrimp rings were buy one get one free a few weeks ago and I bought a whole bunch and froze them. Garrett eats one every other day so I saved a bundle buy stocking up and freezing them. I was giving it a headstart on defrosting by sticking it in the microwave for a minute. We're from Florida, we practically ARE shrimp, we would never eat a WARM shrimp cocktail. :rolleyes: :p That would be like eating one of those garish GREEN key lime pies that people up north try to peddle as key lime pies. :kewl: REAL key lime pie isn't GREEN. :eek: [/INDENT]Did I cover it all? If you want to see pictures ask Garrett and kids I repeat [COLOR=Red][U][I][B]DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME![/B][/I][/U][/COLOR] :thumb:[/QUOTE]
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