I think a 64 on the first and maybe 62/63 on the second. Did not like the spotting and the blurry pictures did not help. You have a nice collection sarah.
The first I would venture to guess a 65 red and the second possibly a 64 RB. Both are phenomenal examples.
I've owned probably more than 200 different certified 1909 VDB and 1909 plain Lincoln cents over the past few years, in all different grades from Good all the way up to MS67+RD. The photos make it difficult, but here's how I grade them: Post 1-MS63RB Post 2-both MS62RB Post 3-both MS64RB Post 4-1909 is MS65RD but the photo makes me think it could be RB as well. The 1910 is MS62RB tops.