Can anyone identify this error and give an idea as to its value?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by John Herman Buckendahl, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Apparently, being an avid collector for 5 years has not been long enough for you to recognize the difference between a Mint error and post-mint damage.

    You choose to ignore the opinion of @Fred Weinberg who is one of the foremost error dealers in the country, the opinion of @paddyman98 who has only been collecting Mint errors for about 35 years, oh, and I might add that I have only been collecting coins since 1957. In all, the respondents to your thread probably have in excess of 200 years of collecting experience.....but that's right.....the 5 years you have under your belt certainly trumps that.....and it's your camera's fault. Amen!

    Chris
     
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  3. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    heavy slot machine or vending machine use removes reeding too.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Buddy.. Your coin is garbage! Stop talking nonsense.
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    No process that I know of.

    No, damage like that could definitely occur outside the mint.

    As you say yourself, the "cud" is actually the result of damage to the reverse which caused a bulge on the obver that was subsequently worn in circulation.

    Note that the coin still shows the rims on both sides, but bent in in many places. The rim is formed DURING the strike and the coin is circular at that time. That means that ALL of those dents and bumps to the rim and edge had to be the result of PSD Post Strike Damage.
     
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  6. Robert L Miller

    Robert L Miller New Member

    Take it to a coin dealer.
     
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  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    The error, or damage as you've stated was some demented human that took out their frustration on this coin. Nothing more.
     
  8. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    It is quite possible that this coin's value is zero, it being an actual quarter not withstanding, as if you cannot get a machine to take it at .25 or a store cashier somewhere or exchange it at a bank, then it won't even be spendable.

    And it is PMD. Truly doesn't matter what got to it. Maybe it was Sasquatch using it as a teething toy for it's baby or maybe a Yeti pooped it out.
     
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  9. Awe... Thank you for that. A little Good Will goes a long, long way... and although my response may be entirely too late to draw anyone's interest or attention towards what you wrote, Harley Bissell, I would still like to take the opportunity to assure you that your contribution towards this conversation was the exactly the type of direction that I was hoping for, and to say thank you for that. Once my one million dollar bid becomes realized, you will be half way to realizing your own personal million dollar pay day.​
     
  10. And as far as the question concerning outside parties who I have possibly included in on this issue, there are none. This is my first attempt at receiving outside help. I also feel that it is important to note that although this coin has been in my possession for months, it hasn't exactly been the focus of my every day in response to my inability to identify the type of error that it had after I found it... It was more like I took the coin out of circulation and I would sometimes find myself revisiting the issue at times over the course of the last few months, without any sort of acceptable explanation for what I was seeing, which eventually brought me here...
     
  11. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Allow me to expound on the answers already provided. No, no, no way this possibly happened during the minting process. Everything that happens to the coin after the struck planchet leaves the coining machine collar is considered PMD.
     
  12. And hey, everybody, I understand that I may come off as extremely dense when asking this same question in spite of the fact that every reply I have received concerning my thread have all said pretty much the exact same thing... But CAN THE MINT PRODUCE THIS COIN? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS COIN COULD HAVE RECEIVED THE EXACT SAME TYPE AND AMOUNT OF DAMAGE SIMPLY FROM THE PROCESSES INVOLVED IN PRODUCING A COIN AT A MINT STARTING FROM A BLANK PLANCHETTE?
     
  13. Ok, Razz. Thank you. That is all I wanted to know. Thank you.
     
  14. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    You're welcome! Happy coin hunting!
     
  15. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I thought I replied to your two questions:

    No


    No
     
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  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Do you mean, "Can a blank that is punched out of a sheet of coin metal that is then run through the upsetting mill to become a planchet, placed into the coining chamber where it is struck by the obverse and reverse dies while it is being held in position by the retaining collar receive the exact same type and amount of damage?"

    Well, you didn't take the time to respond to my comment or Conder101's comment, so why should I respond to yours?

    Chris
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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  18. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reminder that I forgot -


    But apparently his experience is greater than
    our collective experience dealing with coins,
    error coins, and especially the Minting Process.


    I'll try not to, but forgive me if you see a post from
    me on his numerous threads.
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I just showed my wife this coin and asked her what she thought of it. She doesn't have any interest in my coins. I can show her a $5000.00 coin graded by a well known TPG and she shrugs her shoulders. She took one look and said, "That is one damaged coin. Who would want that?" That should tell you is value.
     
  20. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    ....and how sharp she is !

    Would she like to take over my spot making posts on damaged coins ?
     
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It could receive damage lake that while it was still inside the mint building, but not until AFTER it was struck. And anything that happens to a coin after it is struck is simply DAMAGE. Especially since there is no way to tell if the damaged occurred before or after it left the building. So DAMAGE is just that DAMAGE. Not an error and not premium value for the damage.
     
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