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<p>[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 77835, member: 669"]Hello there Rusty, and <img src="http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> to CoinTalk.</p><p><br /></p><p>The characters above the date are definitely Arabic, not Hebrew. Frequently a mint mark appears above the date on an Islamic coin, but I can't match the characters on yours to any of the marks illustrated in the Standard Catalog of World Coins ("Krause").</p><p><br /></p><p>The dot in a star is the Islamic <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamanid" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamanid" rel="nofollow">>> Seal of Suleyman (scroll down) <<</a> (which was frequently used on Morrocon coins, among others) rather than a Jewish Star of David.</p><p><br /></p><p>AH1286 on the Islamic calendar extended from April 13, 1869 to April 3, 1870, on the western calendar, which would place it during the Morrocon reign of Sidi Mohammed IV; but Krause says that the 11.5g bronze 4 falus it resembles (KM#166.1 and KM#166.2 from different mints) was first minted in AH1290 (1873-74). The obverse design is identical to yours, with the Seal inside a ring of denticles, and the reverse is similar, but with different Arabic characters above the date.</p><p><br /></p><p>From your photos I'm not convinced it is a casting, but my slightly educated guess is that you have a contemporary forgery, with an illegible mint name. If so, it will weigh 6g or less, according to Krause. An interesting piece, whatever it may be. Thanks for sharing. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: red">I simply have to learn to type faster. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><br /></p><p>As is often the case, Krause is somewhat incomplete in this instance, and doesn't list the 3 falus. I was guessing 4 because it is only slightly wider than 1 inch, while the 2 falus is quite a bit smaller.</p><p><br /></p><p>And BTW, a big <img src="http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> to you too Cucumbor.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you read Arabic?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 77835, member: 669"]Hello there Rusty, and [img]http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif[/img] to CoinTalk. The characters above the date are definitely Arabic, not Hebrew. Frequently a mint mark appears above the date on an Islamic coin, but I can't match the characters on yours to any of the marks illustrated in the Standard Catalog of World Coins ("Krause"). The dot in a star is the Islamic [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamanid]>> Seal of Suleyman (scroll down) <<[/URL] (which was frequently used on Morrocon coins, among others) rather than a Jewish Star of David. AH1286 on the Islamic calendar extended from April 13, 1869 to April 3, 1870, on the western calendar, which would place it during the Morrocon reign of Sidi Mohammed IV; but Krause says that the 11.5g bronze 4 falus it resembles (KM#166.1 and KM#166.2 from different mints) was first minted in AH1290 (1873-74). The obverse design is identical to yours, with the Seal inside a ring of denticles, and the reverse is similar, but with different Arabic characters above the date. From your photos I'm not convinced it is a casting, but my slightly educated guess is that you have a contemporary forgery, with an illegible mint name. If so, it will weigh 6g or less, according to Krause. An interesting piece, whatever it may be. Thanks for sharing. :) [color=red]I simply have to learn to type faster. :rolleyes:[/color] As is often the case, Krause is somewhat incomplete in this instance, and doesn't list the 3 falus. I was guessing 4 because it is only slightly wider than 1 inch, while the 2 falus is quite a bit smaller. And BTW, a big [img]http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif[/img] to you too Cucumbor. Do you read Arabic?[/QUOTE]
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