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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 816275, member: 13650"]Bubags: I understand your frustration with them grading the modern bullion. I agree that they would have been better off not wading into that territory and wasting their time with them. I'm sure they are making a lot of money off of the extra work though.</p><p><br /></p><p> I do not share the article's view on 69 to 70s being a scam. Yes, most everything that comes out untouched by human hands should be a 69 or 70 unless something happened to it along the way. But I think there is a definite difference between 69 and 70 and anybody who takes the time to really analyze them under a loupe will notice it. If someone's eyes are bad or they don't take the time, they won't see the difference. Every 70 I've seen has been an absolute premium coin with no flaws that I could find. 69's always have some imperfection that can most times, easily be found.</p><p><br /></p><p> Then again, back to the whole premise of that issue...pricing. I believe the 70s are worth a premium but it's up to each individual to decide what that premium is worth to them. <b>It's not worth a lot to me.</b> I have paid for them when the premium was relatively small for the jump up from a 69. But I don't believe it is worth hundreds or thousands for the jump for any gold or plain bullion coin, or anything modern for that matter. I think many people share this view.</p><p><br /></p><p> Just want to add that I think anything that makes the 70 grade amounts more to pure luck when it was made and handled (managing to avoid hair lines, rim dings, and imperfections) than what early die states have to do with it. Maybe there is some truth to the earlier die states but I don't think they get used for very long, to make very much anyway.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 816275, member: 13650"]Bubags: I understand your frustration with them grading the modern bullion. I agree that they would have been better off not wading into that territory and wasting their time with them. I'm sure they are making a lot of money off of the extra work though. I do not share the article's view on 69 to 70s being a scam. Yes, most everything that comes out untouched by human hands should be a 69 or 70 unless something happened to it along the way. But I think there is a definite difference between 69 and 70 and anybody who takes the time to really analyze them under a loupe will notice it. If someone's eyes are bad or they don't take the time, they won't see the difference. Every 70 I've seen has been an absolute premium coin with no flaws that I could find. 69's always have some imperfection that can most times, easily be found. Then again, back to the whole premise of that issue...pricing. I believe the 70s are worth a premium but it's up to each individual to decide what that premium is worth to them. [B]It's not worth a lot to me.[/B] I have paid for them when the premium was relatively small for the jump up from a 69. But I don't believe it is worth hundreds or thousands for the jump for any gold or plain bullion coin, or anything modern for that matter. I think many people share this view. Just want to add that I think anything that makes the 70 grade amounts more to pure luck when it was made and handled (managing to avoid hair lines, rim dings, and imperfections) than what early die states have to do with it. Maybe there is some truth to the earlier die states but I don't think they get used for very long, to make very much anyway.[/QUOTE]
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