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<p>[QUOTE="Carausius, post: 3344474, member: 76440"]I agree that the symbols on the second coin in your post is a perfect match to Crawford symbol pair 11. However, the symbols on the first coin are very different, and I'm fairly certain they represent different objects. Look at them critically, and I think you'll agree. Crawford's list does not include a matching pair for your first coin. I strongly suspect both the website Jay provided and the BM misattributed the first symbol pair as Crawford pair 11 because they could find no better Crawford match. BM website does have occasional misattributions - trust me on that! I will look at Charles Hersh's manuscript on symbols and report back on whether he had a separate listing for the first symbol pair.</p><p><br /></p><p>EDIT: Charles Hersh, who I think we can all recognize as an expert, had a working manuscript that he maintained regarding control symbols on Roman Coins. It's kept at the ANS. In addition to symbol pair 11 (numbered the same by BMC and Crawford) which matches Martin's second coin, Hersh recognized an unpublished symbol pair "I" cup with jug or pitcher, accompanied by a drawing that matches the symbol pair on Martin's first coin. Hersh recognized it as an unpublished pair, distinct from Crawford/BMC pair 11.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Carausius, post: 3344474, member: 76440"]I agree that the symbols on the second coin in your post is a perfect match to Crawford symbol pair 11. However, the symbols on the first coin are very different, and I'm fairly certain they represent different objects. Look at them critically, and I think you'll agree. Crawford's list does not include a matching pair for your first coin. I strongly suspect both the website Jay provided and the BM misattributed the first symbol pair as Crawford pair 11 because they could find no better Crawford match. BM website does have occasional misattributions - trust me on that! I will look at Charles Hersh's manuscript on symbols and report back on whether he had a separate listing for the first symbol pair. EDIT: Charles Hersh, who I think we can all recognize as an expert, had a working manuscript that he maintained regarding control symbols on Roman Coins. It's kept at the ANS. In addition to symbol pair 11 (numbered the same by BMC and Crawford) which matches Martin's second coin, Hersh recognized an unpublished symbol pair "I" cup with jug or pitcher, accompanied by a drawing that matches the symbol pair on Martin's first coin. Hersh recognized it as an unpublished pair, distinct from Crawford/BMC pair 11.[/QUOTE]
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