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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2244171, member: 19463"]Here we go again. Now we replace the Tyrian silver with that of Antioch? Maybe that is a fact but the verse in question has absolutely no relation to the Temple Tax that was paid to the Jewish authorities in the Temple but specifies paying taxes to Caesar=the Romans. I never see discussion of who paid this and how it was paid beyond the system involved Publicans or tax farmers who collected taxes however they could. Whether the Publican paid in gold by weight or denarii by count is not something I have seen discussed. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are so many arguments from each of the sides that the event, if indeed there was a physical event rather than just a parable level report of a teaching fifty years before the gospel was written, was not intended by its author to be dissected to the degree that has become so fashionable. It is a lot like discussions of what kind of wood was used to make the 'True Cross' or whether the wine used at the Last Supper was red or white. What makes the Tribute Pennies sell is the hope of so many thousands of owners that their coin is the one with Jesus' fingerprints on it. The fact that the synoptics specify denarius would seem to keep people from proposing other coins but we prove regularly that you can prove anything with statistics and history properly manipulated. Speaking as someone who has seen almost everything he was taught in school changed, updated or disputed in only 50 years, I can not state anything as an absolute fact about something that may or may not have happened 2000 years ago without applying either Faith or Probability to the equation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2244171, member: 19463"]Here we go again. Now we replace the Tyrian silver with that of Antioch? Maybe that is a fact but the verse in question has absolutely no relation to the Temple Tax that was paid to the Jewish authorities in the Temple but specifies paying taxes to Caesar=the Romans. I never see discussion of who paid this and how it was paid beyond the system involved Publicans or tax farmers who collected taxes however they could. Whether the Publican paid in gold by weight or denarii by count is not something I have seen discussed. There are so many arguments from each of the sides that the event, if indeed there was a physical event rather than just a parable level report of a teaching fifty years before the gospel was written, was not intended by its author to be dissected to the degree that has become so fashionable. It is a lot like discussions of what kind of wood was used to make the 'True Cross' or whether the wine used at the Last Supper was red or white. What makes the Tribute Pennies sell is the hope of so many thousands of owners that their coin is the one with Jesus' fingerprints on it. The fact that the synoptics specify denarius would seem to keep people from proposing other coins but we prove regularly that you can prove anything with statistics and history properly manipulated. Speaking as someone who has seen almost everything he was taught in school changed, updated or disputed in only 50 years, I can not state anything as an absolute fact about something that may or may not have happened 2000 years ago without applying either Faith or Probability to the equation.[/QUOTE]
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