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Message:: [QUOTE="900fine, post: 592188, member: 6036"]None are real.<ul> <li>California fractionals started in 1852.* This eliminates the 1850 coin.</li> <li>California fractionals are divided into three time periods, imaginitively called Period One (1852-1857), Two (1858-1882), and Three (1883 on).</li> <li>None of the Period One pieces had an Indian. All had Liberty a la $20 Liberty except two :<ul> <li>BG 220 (Defiant Eagle a la Feuchtwanger)</li> <li>BG 453 (Arms of California, a seated, helmeted female)</li> </ul></li> </ul>Since your coins are all dated before 1858 and they have Indians, they cannot be real.   * Territorials started in 1849, but not fractionals. Don't confuse the two.[/QUOTE]