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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 3635760, member: 84744"]Thanks for the comments, and great coins everyone! Hopefully [USER=4298]@Cucumbor[/USER]'s awesome example will show up at some point.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also still hoping for some rip snortin' arguments against me. Let me have it! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie55" alt=":hurting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Though actually this is a pretty good argument against. In any inference to the best explanation one of the competing theories is always "Something else that makes sense but that we just haven't thought of yet." If someone <i>forced</i> to you bet, is this really what you'd say? or would you pick one of the known hypotheses? Or maybe you'd pick: it doesn't make sense and never did? (Not asking Orfew specifically, that's meant for everyone. Should've done a poll!)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are a couple more civil war issues to get people thinking along those lines. Basically anything between 49 BCE (Caesar crosses the Rubicon) and 45 BCE (Battle of Munda in Spain) is fair game.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]975574[/ATTACH]</p><p>Plautius Plancus AR denarius, 47 BCE</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]975575[/ATTACH]</p><p>Cato AR quinarius, 47-46 BCE, African mint</p><p><br /></p><p>And here's an Acilius Glabrio, normally dated to 49 BCE, and (interestingly) sporting a snake... though that is Valeduto, not Salus. Harlan thinks this coin is from 50 BCE and that Caesar removed millions of them from the temple of Saturn, but I'm somewhat skeptical of this point:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]975582[/ATTACH]</p><p>This particular example is from the Quidenham hoard (Norfolk, England), buried at the time of Boudica's revolt. Stolen by Caesar, passed on, and then buried by a Roman who died in Boudica's revolt a hundred years later? Fun to think of, anyway. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> And thanks, buddy. In connection with that tournament you are no doubt wondering whether this coin also comes with its own action figure. I am pleased to report that yes, it does:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]975585[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 3635760, member: 84744"]Thanks for the comments, and great coins everyone! Hopefully [USER=4298]@Cucumbor[/USER]'s awesome example will show up at some point. Also still hoping for some rip snortin' arguments against me. Let me have it! :hurting: Though actually this is a pretty good argument against. In any inference to the best explanation one of the competing theories is always "Something else that makes sense but that we just haven't thought of yet." If someone [I]forced[/I] to you bet, is this really what you'd say? or would you pick one of the known hypotheses? Or maybe you'd pick: it doesn't make sense and never did? (Not asking Orfew specifically, that's meant for everyone. Should've done a poll!) Here are a couple more civil war issues to get people thinking along those lines. Basically anything between 49 BCE (Caesar crosses the Rubicon) and 45 BCE (Battle of Munda in Spain) is fair game. [ATTACH=full]975574[/ATTACH] Plautius Plancus AR denarius, 47 BCE [ATTACH=full]975575[/ATTACH] Cato AR quinarius, 47-46 BCE, African mint And here's an Acilius Glabrio, normally dated to 49 BCE, and (interestingly) sporting a snake... though that is Valeduto, not Salus. Harlan thinks this coin is from 50 BCE and that Caesar removed millions of them from the temple of Saturn, but I'm somewhat skeptical of this point: [ATTACH=full]975582[/ATTACH] This particular example is from the Quidenham hoard (Norfolk, England), buried at the time of Boudica's revolt. Stolen by Caesar, passed on, and then buried by a Roman who died in Boudica's revolt a hundred years later? Fun to think of, anyway. :D :hilarious: And thanks, buddy. In connection with that tournament you are no doubt wondering whether this coin also comes with its own action figure. I am pleased to report that yes, it does: [ATTACH=full]975585[/ATTACH] :cigar: :D[/QUOTE]
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