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<p>[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 330968, member: 2972"]Ben,</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have that perspective, how do you justify the statement "I can pretty much guarantee this incredible upward spike came with the advent of the internet which opened doors like no other magazine special or telemarketing scheme"? Because I just don't get it....</p><p><br /></p><p>There was no such thing as the Internet in the 80's and the prices went through the roof. The point being that demand, from collectors like you and me, are what cause the price increases (and decreases), not the supply side (and not a letter from David Hall). The internet facilitates things (just like the TPGs did when they started), and thus helps with the demand side (although I would argue the Internet also provides more competition and thus lower prices), but there are far broader economic forces at work which led to the increase in prices -- and almost all of this is demand.</p><p><br /></p><p>Listen, it is easy to point to the TPGs, the internet, or the CAC as the "problem", but I would argue that they are doing nothing but what the market is asking for. If they had no value, they would not be present. But they do add value, they do facilitate transactions, so they continue -- because we as collectors need/want them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, you could argue that collectors <i>shouldn't</i> need them, but the facts are that they do, and the market (i.e. demand) has spoken. So you can pee into the wind that they are evil and profit hungry (which is at least in part true), but to deny their impact or value -- or the reason they are in existence (collectors/demand) -- would be a mistake, in my opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Respectfully...Mike[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 330968, member: 2972"]Ben, If you have that perspective, how do you justify the statement "I can pretty much guarantee this incredible upward spike came with the advent of the internet which opened doors like no other magazine special or telemarketing scheme"? Because I just don't get it.... There was no such thing as the Internet in the 80's and the prices went through the roof. The point being that demand, from collectors like you and me, are what cause the price increases (and decreases), not the supply side (and not a letter from David Hall). The internet facilitates things (just like the TPGs did when they started), and thus helps with the demand side (although I would argue the Internet also provides more competition and thus lower prices), but there are far broader economic forces at work which led to the increase in prices -- and almost all of this is demand. Listen, it is easy to point to the TPGs, the internet, or the CAC as the "problem", but I would argue that they are doing nothing but what the market is asking for. If they had no value, they would not be present. But they do add value, they do facilitate transactions, so they continue -- because we as collectors need/want them. Now, you could argue that collectors [i]shouldn't[/i] need them, but the facts are that they do, and the market (i.e. demand) has spoken. So you can pee into the wind that they are evil and profit hungry (which is at least in part true), but to deny their impact or value -- or the reason they are in existence (collectors/demand) -- would be a mistake, in my opinion. Respectfully...Mike[/QUOTE]
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