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<p>[QUOTE="DreCollector, post: 1302674, member: 34282"]First of all you shouldnt be talking about stuff that you have no clue about.. Ok everything that you said about CAC is wrong. I am collector and a memeber at CAC. THey are great and they do an excellent job, And they are totally different from the TPG. They are respectfull and Like MArk said they actually really care about the collectors which is awesome. AnD YEs sure your mad because You have to wait and you cant become a member. Well you know thats just life. I mean if you were seriously interested in CAC then you would have Known that they were ending the membership for a while. THey gave out notice in advance. And to answer some of your other question about CAC. It has nothing to do about money.. I am collector and I dont send in nearly the amount of some dealers or anybody else. I send in a fair amount. ANd Clearly you can see thats its not about money. In fact its the total opposite. Because Obviously if they were all about money and thats all they cared about. Do you really think they would stop accepting members. When that means that they are cutting off potential money that they could be making. ANd I think thats awesome. The reason why they do that is because They dont want to become over populated. Thats the main problem with the TPG. You send in a coin or two and it could take up to a month just to get your coins graded. or the more money your willing to spend they will do a faster turnaround. AND thats not what CAC wants. They wanna make sure that they can give people a proper turnaround. Which is awesome. Which means I as the collector dont have to spend more money just to get my coins back faster. They treat everyone equal. I mean for example I sent in probably 11 coins the one day on A FRIDAY and then they received my coins that following monday. And they give you constant updates on the procees which is also very nice. So monday they recieved and dont you know I got an email sent to me That very Wednesday saying that my order shipped out today and here are your results. Which only took 2 days. Which is incredible. Where else could you get that quick of a service without paying a ton of money. Now that doesnt mean that It will always be done in 2 days. But still I have sent coins in multiple times after that and It has never taken more than a week for them to finish.</p><p> One other thing to answere another question you made. You asked why is it that they dont charge the collector for coins that arnt accepted, and why do dealers have to pay, ANd you said you would think that they would be doing it the other way around and letting dealers not have to pay the fee if there coins didint CAC. and the reason for this is because they say that DEALERS should know which coins are more likely to be excepted than collectors. SO basically there saying dealers this is there profession. And they should be able to figure out which coins are LOW END and most likely wont CAC. And they feel they shouldnt be taking advantage of charging the collector money because he might not be aware of which coins should get or which coins are graded properly. Now im not saying that all dealers know better than collectors. because thats not always the case. For example with me in the begining i sent in every coin that i wanted to CAC because why not I didint have to pay for it. But after a while if your pretty good at what your doing and you are an advanced collector, Like I am. Ive been able to somewhat figure out what coins will CAC , and figure out what are the type of coins that CAC seems to Accept. It took me a couple times and you have to somewhat no how to grade. IM not saying im perfect. but Ive done a pretty good job at figuring out which ones will CAC. I have about a 75 to 80 % success rate for the coins that I send in. And I think they do a Great job at what they do and its about time to be able to acknowlege the Better high end coins. Because they do go for premiums, and they should. I mean who wouldnt want to have a coin that is acknowleged to be the higher end of a coin. ANd CAC also gives buying sight unseen a new meaning. Becaue now people can buy over the phone or internet and trust that if it has a cac sticker then it gives you more confidence. And im not saying all coins with a CAC sticker is the best because there are nice coins out there that are high end but dont have a CAC sticker for many reasons. Maybe they havent been sent yet or whatever the reason is. And yes there are some coins that shouldnt have CACd in my oppinion, but thats to be expected. nobody is perfect. and a coin doesnt have to be Beautiful to CAC. There are some coins that are ugly and might have a CAC sticker, but thats because it obviously is a strong coin for the grade. Meaning the strike and definition is good. it might be toned really ugly but there goin off of the grading of the actualy coin itself behind the toning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DreCollector, post: 1302674, member: 34282"]First of all you shouldnt be talking about stuff that you have no clue about.. Ok everything that you said about CAC is wrong. I am collector and a memeber at CAC. THey are great and they do an excellent job, And they are totally different from the TPG. They are respectfull and Like MArk said they actually really care about the collectors which is awesome. AnD YEs sure your mad because You have to wait and you cant become a member. Well you know thats just life. I mean if you were seriously interested in CAC then you would have Known that they were ending the membership for a while. THey gave out notice in advance. And to answer some of your other question about CAC. It has nothing to do about money.. I am collector and I dont send in nearly the amount of some dealers or anybody else. I send in a fair amount. ANd Clearly you can see thats its not about money. In fact its the total opposite. Because Obviously if they were all about money and thats all they cared about. Do you really think they would stop accepting members. When that means that they are cutting off potential money that they could be making. ANd I think thats awesome. The reason why they do that is because They dont want to become over populated. Thats the main problem with the TPG. You send in a coin or two and it could take up to a month just to get your coins graded. or the more money your willing to spend they will do a faster turnaround. AND thats not what CAC wants. They wanna make sure that they can give people a proper turnaround. Which is awesome. Which means I as the collector dont have to spend more money just to get my coins back faster. They treat everyone equal. I mean for example I sent in probably 11 coins the one day on A FRIDAY and then they received my coins that following monday. And they give you constant updates on the procees which is also very nice. So monday they recieved and dont you know I got an email sent to me That very Wednesday saying that my order shipped out today and here are your results. Which only took 2 days. Which is incredible. Where else could you get that quick of a service without paying a ton of money. Now that doesnt mean that It will always be done in 2 days. But still I have sent coins in multiple times after that and It has never taken more than a week for them to finish. One other thing to answere another question you made. You asked why is it that they dont charge the collector for coins that arnt accepted, and why do dealers have to pay, ANd you said you would think that they would be doing it the other way around and letting dealers not have to pay the fee if there coins didint CAC. and the reason for this is because they say that DEALERS should know which coins are more likely to be excepted than collectors. SO basically there saying dealers this is there profession. And they should be able to figure out which coins are LOW END and most likely wont CAC. And they feel they shouldnt be taking advantage of charging the collector money because he might not be aware of which coins should get or which coins are graded properly. Now im not saying that all dealers know better than collectors. because thats not always the case. For example with me in the begining i sent in every coin that i wanted to CAC because why not I didint have to pay for it. But after a while if your pretty good at what your doing and you are an advanced collector, Like I am. Ive been able to somewhat figure out what coins will CAC , and figure out what are the type of coins that CAC seems to Accept. It took me a couple times and you have to somewhat no how to grade. IM not saying im perfect. but Ive done a pretty good job at figuring out which ones will CAC. I have about a 75 to 80 % success rate for the coins that I send in. And I think they do a Great job at what they do and its about time to be able to acknowlege the Better high end coins. Because they do go for premiums, and they should. I mean who wouldnt want to have a coin that is acknowleged to be the higher end of a coin. ANd CAC also gives buying sight unseen a new meaning. Becaue now people can buy over the phone or internet and trust that if it has a cac sticker then it gives you more confidence. And im not saying all coins with a CAC sticker is the best because there are nice coins out there that are high end but dont have a CAC sticker for many reasons. Maybe they havent been sent yet or whatever the reason is. And yes there are some coins that shouldnt have CACd in my oppinion, but thats to be expected. nobody is perfect. and a coin doesnt have to be Beautiful to CAC. There are some coins that are ugly and might have a CAC sticker, but thats because it obviously is a strong coin for the grade. Meaning the strike and definition is good. it might be toned really ugly but there goin off of the grading of the actualy coin itself behind the toning.[/QUOTE]
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