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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2457620, member: 24314"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Actually, I respect you for sticking to your opinion <span style="color: #b300b3">in spite of the facts</span> and not running away from a discussion. </p><p> </p><p>[USER=3726]@mark_h[/USER] hopes a whole bunch of less knowledgeable numismatists adopt his opinion concerning grading and eye appeal. That's too bad. He should have stopped there - the uninformed leading the uninformed down the path to silly town. Unfortunately, the post below calls for more <span style="color: #0059b3">corrections</span>...of course made in good faith as just my opinion. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p> </p><p>Personally - I hope a whole bunch. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> And you might as well stop reading here. <span style="color: #0059b3">Not a chance. </span>Say what you will about me, but I hope people take the time to read both threads and understand what I call eye appeal <span style="color: #0059b3">No one cares what YOU CALL eye appeal. So far you have demonstrated that you have not even looked at an ANA Grading Guide or the other guides posted here where that term is plastered all over. </span>Apparently Eye appeal is subjective and that is fine to use for what each individual will pay for a coin or what makes them pick up a coin to start with. <span style="color: #0059b3">Finally a grain of truth - something positive. Yes, eye appeal is extremely subjective. It is like a sophisticated, developed, experienced, "taste." It can be learned and the closer one learns what is considered "good taste" the less they will differ from the standards of taste set by the movers and shakers of the coin business/hobby. In other words, the better your taste the more beneficial it will be for your out lay of money and enjoyment. </span></p><p>The TPGs should stick to technical grading <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #0059b3"> The TPGS DO NOT GRADE COINS TECHNICALLY. Again, you need to study up on what's going on around you. </span> and maybe adding a plus or * for those that conform to their version of eye appeal. And most of this topic centers around toning and things like woodies(which just popped into my mind) - to each their own, but tpgs should not punish woodies because they do not conform to their version of eye appeal, and they should not bump grades because a coin does conform to their version of eye appeal. <span style="color: #0059b3">Perhaps you should write four letters expressing your concern. One to Mark Salzberg, one to David Hall, one to CW and one to NN. </span>End of story - grading is subjective.<span style="color: #0059b3"> And so is eye appeal. After you do some studying, and see that a coin's eye appeal is a big part of its commercial grade/value and that eye appeal is in books and taught in grading classes; I for one would like to read that you have modified your opinion just a little. </span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2457620, member: 24314"]:hilarious::hilarious: Actually, I respect you for sticking to your opinion [COLOR=#b300b3]in spite of the facts[/COLOR] and not running away from a discussion. [USER=3726]@mark_h[/USER] hopes a whole bunch of less knowledgeable numismatists adopt his opinion concerning grading and eye appeal. That's too bad. He should have stopped there - the uninformed leading the uninformed down the path to silly town. Unfortunately, the post below calls for more [COLOR=#0059b3]corrections[/COLOR]...of course made in good faith as just my opinion. :angelic: Personally - I hope a whole bunch. :( And you might as well stop reading here. [COLOR=#0059b3]Not a chance. [/COLOR]Say what you will about me, but I hope people take the time to read both threads and understand what I call eye appeal [COLOR=#0059b3]No one cares what YOU CALL eye appeal. So far you have demonstrated that you have not even looked at an ANA Grading Guide or the other guides posted here where that term is plastered all over. [/COLOR]Apparently Eye appeal is subjective and that is fine to use for what each individual will pay for a coin or what makes them pick up a coin to start with. [COLOR=#0059b3]Finally a grain of truth - something positive. Yes, eye appeal is extremely subjective. It is like a sophisticated, developed, experienced, "taste." It can be learned and the closer one learns what is considered "good taste" the less they will differ from the standards of taste set by the movers and shakers of the coin business/hobby. In other words, the better your taste the more beneficial it will be for your out lay of money and enjoyment. [/COLOR] The TPGs should stick to technical grading :facepalm: [COLOR=#0059b3] The TPGS DO NOT GRADE COINS TECHNICALLY. Again, you need to study up on what's going on around you. [/COLOR] and maybe adding a plus or * for those that conform to their version of eye appeal. And most of this topic centers around toning and things like woodies(which just popped into my mind) - to each their own, but tpgs should not punish woodies because they do not conform to their version of eye appeal, and they should not bump grades because a coin does conform to their version of eye appeal. [COLOR=#0059b3]Perhaps you should write four letters expressing your concern. One to Mark Salzberg, one to David Hall, one to CW and one to NN. [/COLOR]End of story - grading is subjective.[COLOR=#0059b3] And so is eye appeal. After you do some studying, and see that a coin's eye appeal is a big part of its commercial grade/value and that eye appeal is in books and taught in grading classes; I for one would like to read that you have modified your opinion just a little. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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