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<p>[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 822515, member: 307"]Although your points are well though out and very well constucted, Lehigh, since I recognize two of these complaints as if not my own, ones that I have hammered at many times, I wanted to respond.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>CAC is a company, an entity, a brand, not 1 person. While I agree that John may be the best grader in the business, once he is not grading the coins, CAC will continue to sticker and this is when my argument becomes valid. There are fabulous graders out there, but when it becomes face-less and not personally done by John, I think that maybe at that time the Brand X TPG graders may be better and you then have to figure out if John graded your coin, or someone else. and if it's someone else, then you had better have them checked by a better expert. I see a death spiral, I am sorry if you don't.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You're right in that lazy collectors will always get fleeced, that's the price they pay, but the mere existence of the TPGs has removed <b>all</b> incentive for them to learn. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for the professional graders, they come from the pool of knowledgeable collectors. There is a steady stream of new ones made every day. ther are not anointed, they gradually become better and more respected over time, then they become well-known. The TPGs are not having problems finding people who can grade for them. </p><p><br /></p><p>Granted the average collector cannot grade across many series, but some people learn to with experience. Many like Clembo and I work in coin shops. I <b>have</b> to be able to grade across many series or I am of no use to the shop owner, so I take exception to you saying that I am arrogant if I think I can. I am not offended, however, so please don't misunderstand me I believe that we are friends, but my boss puts his money where my eyes are, and I think that speaks volumes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 822515, member: 307"]Although your points are well though out and very well constucted, Lehigh, since I recognize two of these complaints as if not my own, ones that I have hammered at many times, I wanted to respond. CAC is a company, an entity, a brand, not 1 person. While I agree that John may be the best grader in the business, once he is not grading the coins, CAC will continue to sticker and this is when my argument becomes valid. There are fabulous graders out there, but when it becomes face-less and not personally done by John, I think that maybe at that time the Brand X TPG graders may be better and you then have to figure out if John graded your coin, or someone else. and if it's someone else, then you had better have them checked by a better expert. I see a death spiral, I am sorry if you don't. You're right in that lazy collectors will always get fleeced, that's the price they pay, but the mere existence of the TPGs has removed [b]all[/b] incentive for them to learn. As for the professional graders, they come from the pool of knowledgeable collectors. There is a steady stream of new ones made every day. ther are not anointed, they gradually become better and more respected over time, then they become well-known. The TPGs are not having problems finding people who can grade for them. Granted the average collector cannot grade across many series, but some people learn to with experience. Many like Clembo and I work in coin shops. I [b]have[/b] to be able to grade across many series or I am of no use to the shop owner, so I take exception to you saying that I am arrogant if I think I can. I am not offended, however, so please don't misunderstand me I believe that we are friends, but my boss puts his money where my eyes are, and I think that speaks volumes.[/QUOTE]
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