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Message:: [QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 821497, member: 16510"]CAC, ABC and jimmie cracked corn, it don't mean a thing to me.All it tells me is someone has spent a total of about $75 to $125 dollars getting the thing slabbed, mailed, ins., time spent, retuned, resubmitted and god only knows what else to get all these third party designations.  I'd just as soon bark at the moon than try and understand why "most" coins need such double grading and opinions on top of opinions.I shutter to think what's next in the ever increasing market of paying others to do what people can (and have done in the past) for themselves. I guess in high-end market coins maybe 1 out of 100 really rare or high grade classic coins could somehow benefit and give added assurance for the owner, seller or more particularly an investor but again, this can be done by other methods and means but "to each to his own".Now I have nore of the coins that would ever need to be in such a holder, nor would I want them to if I had them but, I do not spend much time looking at plastic, stickers, ribbons, first strike designations, and holograms.  I thought it was about the coin whether in a 2x2, a filp, a envelope or anything else. But more to the point of your question I'll give this answer:My first choice would be PCGS with CAC.2nd would be NGC with CAC.Third choice PCGS without CAC.4th NGC without CAC.[/QUOTE]