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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8612369, member: 24314"]Any "new" grading service has the chance to simplify grading = if a coin is not MS don't put it into a Mint State slab. Grade the coin for its condition of preservation only! <b>Its rarity, owner, history, desirability, and especially its value at the time it is graded do not belong in a grading room.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, it seems this is not going to happen anytime because that horse left the barn in the 1980's with "no trace of wear" in the saddle. </p><p><br /></p><p>Decades of AU's in MS slabs at every TPGS are all over the place. Practically everyone in the business couldn't/didn't accept the fact that in some series of coins, finding one in original MS would be like catching a glimpse of Big Foot. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Hommer, posted: "There is a lot of talk about computer grading. When no 2 people can agree what "Mint State" actually is, who programs to software? [<span style="color: #b30000">EXACTLY</span>] Mint State, as the name applies, is the state or condition in which it leaves the mint, so, all would be a 70 when it leaves the door, but we all know they aren't. [<span style="color: #b30000">Exactly, however, MS coins get banged around at the mint so an MS grade for a business strike EVER is a myth</span>] Who gets to decide what is and isn't for all the rest of the world to follow? Who gets the monopoly? I've said this before. Any knowledgeable numismatist - I'll pick JA since this thread is about his next creation - who is pinned down, off the record (No Net Graders) and one-on-one with their equal under the best viewing conditions will probably pick a grade that cannot be disputed<span style="color: #b30000"> <b>UNTIL</b> they must account for strike, value, rarity, and eye appeal. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>It is a "technical/commercial" quandary. An MS-66 gem and an MS-66 flatly struck gem are in the exact same condition <b><i>as made at the Mint</i>.</b> They are described perfectly yet one is worth far more money.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8612369, member: 24314"]Any "new" grading service has the chance to simplify grading = if a coin is not MS don't put it into a Mint State slab. Grade the coin for its condition of preservation only! [B]Its rarity, owner, history, desirability, and especially its value at the time it is graded do not belong in a grading room.[/B] Unfortunately, it seems this is not going to happen anytime because that horse left the barn in the 1980's with "no trace of wear" in the saddle. Decades of AU's in MS slabs at every TPGS are all over the place. Practically everyone in the business couldn't/didn't accept the fact that in some series of coins, finding one in original MS would be like catching a glimpse of Big Foot. Hommer, posted: "There is a lot of talk about computer grading. When no 2 people can agree what "Mint State" actually is, who programs to software? [[COLOR=#b30000]EXACTLY[/COLOR]] Mint State, as the name applies, is the state or condition in which it leaves the mint, so, all would be a 70 when it leaves the door, but we all know they aren't. [[COLOR=#b30000]Exactly, however, MS coins get banged around at the mint so an MS grade for a business strike EVER is a myth[/COLOR]] Who gets to decide what is and isn't for all the rest of the world to follow? Who gets the monopoly? I've said this before. Any knowledgeable numismatist - I'll pick JA since this thread is about his next creation - who is pinned down, off the record (No Net Graders) and one-on-one with their equal under the best viewing conditions will probably pick a grade that cannot be disputed[COLOR=#b30000] [B]UNTIL[/B] they must account for strike, value, rarity, and eye appeal. [/COLOR] It is a "technical/commercial" quandary. An MS-66 gem and an MS-66 flatly struck gem are in the exact same condition [B][I]as made at the Mint[/I].[/B] They are described perfectly yet one is worth far more money.[/QUOTE]
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