CAC, Heritage, and a mystery.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    i hope i didnt send that nice note to you.
     
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  3. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    it was directed to the layer obviously a new one.
    i see i misspelled what he is and its to hard to correct on this little phone
     
  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Hugh, I was referring to someone else entirely. It had nothing to do with you, rest assured!
     
  5. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    it was steve I think Well if any hurt that case the rookie did. my lips are sealed
     
  6. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    the young brat was steve. anyway Im going look for coins Or something
     
  7. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    your still my main man, you and Bill
     
  8. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Mr. Stiel:

    This being the first opportunity to view your "ramblings" as a direct response, addressing me as an "idiot" who's previously publicly adjudged your capabilities, I've deferred to others in the past, but now fully comprehend.

    I believe that any objective individual(s) reviewing my quote you've posted: "I personally haven't reviewed the case or followed the ramblings/posts of the individual" (referring to you) may conclude, regardless of your other faculties or capabilities, that you've diminished comprehensive and communication skills.

    I'd strongly recommend that you hire an English/diction tutor, and proof-reader prior to further public postings, as I believe you're endangering yourself.

    I realize you may not understand the content of this response, but please have a more learned individual read and explain same. I might suggest an elementary educator.

    Respectfully, Rich
     
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  9. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

  10. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I hate to burst bubbles, but CAC is no more consistent than the services IMHO. I had a coin that failed unexpectedly, and I sent it back two weeks later and it stickered. There are also no shortage of coins that have green beaned in a grade lower only to green bean again when the coin upgrades or when the coin changes holders from one TPG to another coins can go from no sticker to sticker.

    I also find CAC's standards to be perplexing. A circulated Bust Half coin with a few faint hairlines that are not very noticeable is rejected, yet one with a very obvious deep scratch even after having been "toned over" but still very visible is given a green light. What gives?

    This is why I do not understand the CAC only crowd.

    Bottom line: I do think Heritage submitted your coins. CAC dropped the ball (hopefully the first time and not the second).
     
  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    So I wasted my money sending them in for new cert numbers? You resubmitted yours and it passed the second time in the same holder??? Good to know!
     
  12. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    I'm thinking of a service that I can provide to owners of PCGS-graded coins:

    Before they send to CAC, I will, for a fee, place a blessing over them.

    I one stick of incense and the ring of a bell are included.
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    If you want to keep ahead of your competition, you'll want to take advantage of our Certified Incense Stick Stickering Service. And stay tuned for an exciting new announcement that will be of interest to anyone buying or selling blessing bells, too!
     
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  14. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Yes, CAC will give a coin a fair shake the second time around.
     
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  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I'll take a blessing bell if it's an Early Release:wacky:
     
  16. Player11

    Player11 Bullish

    Interesting, thanks for sharing. I really like the 1839 $5 gold piece.
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Interesting discussion
     
  18. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    They are tough with Bust coins, not sure why, maybe they are looking for no problem with eye appeal coins. Good luck with them getting the green bean and then if they make an offer it will be below Greysheet.
     
  19. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    CAC doesn't seem to mind coins with toned over scratches, even if obvious.
     
  20. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    The ANA grading standards do not define acceptable vs. unacceptable scratches as far as I know.
     
  21. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    The following is from the transcripts report of the Federal RICO lawsuit involving PCI Et Al:
    "An 1892-CC Liberty Double Eagle, sold by PCA to Pereida for $12,500 and graded by PCI as MS62, was valued by Heritage at $2,600 and only AU, valued by Montgomery at $1700 because it was damaged and PCGS refused to grade it because of a noticeable scratch on the coin."

    I believe you'll find that statement cost the defendants an appreciable amount, as punitive damages were a 7 figure sum.

    I don't know about others, but at least 1 member of this forum knows I've a "scratched" coin certified by PCGS, as I'm reasonably certain others have. I suspect some may rue their opinion/decision/testimony in anticipated future litigation.

    JMHO
     
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