CAC, Heritage, and a mystery.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You do realize that, prior to 2013 iirc, CAC didnt even charge collector members for failed submissions, right? Funny that this horrible and greedy entity would do such a thing, isn't it?

    Most who slam CAC could, if just willing to open their eyes, learn a lot from what CAC does as it is one of the cheapest tuitions out there, even today pass or fail.
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    The point I was trying to make (regarding OP's coins) is that CAC doesn't always get it right either........
     
  4. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Oh, I see... and of course. Youre a tough one to read sometimes....
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Now why would ya say that? devil.gif
     
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  6. PCI-graded coins have a poor reputation with many dealers, with some justification. However, I think the overgrading of PCI coins really refers to the later ones with a gold insert. Not long ago, I submitted 6 PCI-graded coins, with green labels, to PCGS to see if they would cross over. One was returned because of questionable color, one received a lower grade (AU58 to AU55), three received the same grade when they crossed, and one received a higher grade (AU58 to MS62). Go figure!
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    A good salesman can sell a glass of water to a drowning man. A so so salesman can sell anything if their product is good.
    But even a bad salesman can easily sell something that looks as good as that three cent piece does.
    my point..... when you have a coin that looks that good put a price on it ....your price , a price you'll be happy with,and stick to your guns.
    Coins that have been graded by a TPG as well as sticker ed have sold well under par.
    You all get so worked up over grades and stickers you drive yourself nuts!
    Looking at that fish scale,if I had the means I would not even sneeze over a price that you would ask.
    There's no one in here can say that coin has issues, or is not worth a nice chunk of change.
    Trust your eye ,don't pay money for someone else's option ....as advice and options are cheap......you just got mine for free. Set your price and accept nothing other than...... even if you came down 5-10% it's still cheaper then the fee's you paid and the worried it's caused. JMHO
     
  8. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    In short, YES, they (CAC) are most definitely that inconsistent.
     
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  9. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    I feel the cac people burned you twice for the "green beans" is all that happened.....
     
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  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That was the point I was making too.
     
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  11. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    John Albanese has said repeatedly that CAC exists for the collectors not for the dealers. HA is the #1 dealer entity in the USA. CAC pleases collectors but try to show fairness to all. With the HA coins, every minute speck is chronicled in vivid color and hues. Maybe more careful when HA sends them submissions, which probably come 100 or more at a time. Joe collector sends them his prize jewels and presto! Green and gold stickers and warm fuzzy feelings for the hobby ensue.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Haha. Hahahaahahah. Hahahaahahaha.

    Oh, that's a good one.
     
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  13. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    Did I mention I have a law suit againt them for similar activity and even more issues you are going to be disappointed to hear the whole story.
    So far we have stayed out of arbitration , all I can do is hope. I d like to keep it in a court room. Imagine with the coins purchased thru them and the advising me all the way. consignments ect
     
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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yes, Hugh..... and many, many, many, many, many times.
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Hugh, don't say another word.........these guys are probably out there, trolling the forums, waiting for you to make a misstep of statement that they can capitalize upon, and present in court. Hold your cards close to your chest and I hope you have a valued lawyer......
     
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  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    He has long since blown his case with incessant online blathering about the affair. Any defense lawyer has enough to savage his position. It's too late. They're going to tear him to shreds.
     
  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Do I even want to ask.......
     
  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Another thing that will cause a coin to fail cac is surface issues so many coins have been cleaned altered etc and still grade straight. Those will usually fail at cac. But their not fool proof
     
  19. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I submitted a coin that failed to sticker to my surprise. I resubmitted it 2 weeks later, and guess what?... It stickered.
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    No. Trust me.
     
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  21. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I hadn't heard about this.
     
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