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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2309985, member: 24314"]THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH COMMERCIAL/MARKET/TPGS GRADING. If I were you. I should send this post EXACTLY as written to CW Commentary and NN Viewpoint. It will stir up a good pack of letters to the Editor if printed. </p><p> </p><p>If I were teaching, I should not end the discussion but explain the "Facts of the Market" to all of you. "Look guys, we are all correct. This is an MS-65 but coins like this with a huge price jump are GRADED DIFFERENTLY...here is the how and the why... Now we have some happy, informed students who learned something and are not confused. </p><p> </p><p>That's why the original TECHNICAL grading was so easy to teach. Most of the students graded the coin correctly at MS-65 because it was an MS-65! That's what you were taught. You need to be a TPG/SAVY coin dealer to know about the price jump. Most of us here will never make the cut. I've been in this business as a collector since the late 60's and I cannot/will never/and do not have the time to learn "Market/TPGS" grading. Wish I could/did because there is $15,000 on the table to be made on that coin as standards loosen or the "right" person sends it in X # of times (<span style="color: #b30000">I have only heard these things - cannot confirm</span>). I talk to the TPG's whenever I can and have taken courses as you have done. I argue with them about technical/commercial; wear/stacking/cabinet friction all the time and learn from it.</p><p> </p><p>Take a look at the gray sheet for yourself. Some dollars go from $$$ or $$$$ to $$,$$$$ at the 4 - 5 line. To get the 65, the coin needs to be something the TPG's AND Finalizer wants for their collection...LOL. </p><p> </p><p>What timing. This Tuesday at a coin shop the owner showed me three slabbed coins. One was graded 64, the other (?) PL and one 63 DMPL. Grade not important here. EVERY ONE was off in our opinion. The first (a better date) was PL yet not graded PL <span style="color: #b30000">(can you say PRICE JUMP). </span>BOTH other coins were DMPL with exactly the same mirror on both sides! Can you say PRICE JUMP again. The dealer understands "market" grading. That's why he sent them in hoping they would $$$GRADE$$$! </p><p> </p><p>Thanks for sharing this...I'm printing it out for my grading article files.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2309985, member: 24314"]THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH COMMERCIAL/MARKET/TPGS GRADING. If I were you. I should send this post EXACTLY as written to CW Commentary and NN Viewpoint. It will stir up a good pack of letters to the Editor if printed. If I were teaching, I should not end the discussion but explain the "Facts of the Market" to all of you. "Look guys, we are all correct. This is an MS-65 but coins like this with a huge price jump are GRADED DIFFERENTLY...here is the how and the why... Now we have some happy, informed students who learned something and are not confused. That's why the original TECHNICAL grading was so easy to teach. Most of the students graded the coin correctly at MS-65 because it was an MS-65! That's what you were taught. You need to be a TPG/SAVY coin dealer to know about the price jump. Most of us here will never make the cut. I've been in this business as a collector since the late 60's and I cannot/will never/and do not have the time to learn "Market/TPGS" grading. Wish I could/did because there is $15,000 on the table to be made on that coin as standards loosen or the "right" person sends it in X # of times ([COLOR=#b30000]I have only heard these things - cannot confirm[/COLOR]). I talk to the TPG's whenever I can and have taken courses as you have done. I argue with them about technical/commercial; wear/stacking/cabinet friction all the time and learn from it. Take a look at the gray sheet for yourself. Some dollars go from $$$ or $$$$ to $$,$$$$ at the 4 - 5 line. To get the 65, the coin needs to be something the TPG's AND Finalizer wants for their collection...LOL. What timing. This Tuesday at a coin shop the owner showed me three slabbed coins. One was graded 64, the other (?) PL and one 63 DMPL. Grade not important here. EVERY ONE was off in our opinion. The first (a better date) was PL yet not graded PL [COLOR=#b30000](can you say PRICE JUMP). [/COLOR]BOTH other coins were DMPL with exactly the same mirror on both sides! Can you say PRICE JUMP again. The dealer understands "market" grading. That's why he sent them in hoping they would $$$GRADE$$$! Thanks for sharing this...I'm printing it out for my grading article files.[/QUOTE]
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