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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2309250, member: 24314"]Further up this thread is a photo of an Albanian coin. I claim that virtually every line/hairline visible in the photo is a result of die polishing at the Albanian Mint. Some have said I am misinformed. One member (I cannot find his post to quote here) said he collects this country and PCGS graded it due to its rarity ( AM STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY GRADED IT). The informed poster hinted that the coin is scratched up and not original.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have added a micrograph of another coin with scratches at the bottom of the post. I'm very interested in comments by everyone here But ESPECIALLY by two of you who originally posted opinions on the cleaning and unoriginality of the Albania 5 Fr. with the unknown <u><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">(to me)</span></u>TPGS grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, I wrote the following and it contains an error as was pointed out below by Numismat: <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">Correction in red.</span></p><p>Everyone, and I mean everyone...Mint engravers, mint press operators, mint floor foremen, well-known numismatic authorities on the minting process will tell you that the cartwheel effect we all like to see on our coins is caused by die erosion <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">(grooves in the die due to metal flow across the die face as coins are struck.</span> The die wear does not create the luster <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">(on the metal die which REFLECTS LIGHT from its surface) </span> (it is already on the metal planchet <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">[which also reflects light]</span>) it enhances and changes the luster. <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">Because the appearance/quality of the MINT LUSTER on the coin depends on the condition of the die and planchet. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>Numismat replied: Dude, this is cringe-worthy. The fresher the die, the smoother the cartwheel effect.<span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">Yes, and with really fresh dies the "cartwheel" is different/virtually not there as on coins that are struck later in the die life.</span> When you have a worn die there are tiny stops and gaps <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">I know what you are saying; we call them "radials."</span> that make the cartwheel effect look, well, pixelated is the best word I can use to describe it. This</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We have been discussing Cabinet Friction vs wear. In the interest of this thread, I posted <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">(See #224 above) </span>a micrograph of a high point on a gold coin. So far there have been no opinions...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2309250, member: 24314"]Further up this thread is a photo of an Albanian coin. I claim that virtually every line/hairline visible in the photo is a result of die polishing at the Albanian Mint. Some have said I am misinformed. One member (I cannot find his post to quote here) said he collects this country and PCGS graded it due to its rarity ( AM STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY GRADED IT). The informed poster hinted that the coin is scratched up and not original. I have added a micrograph of another coin with scratches at the bottom of the post. I'm very interested in comments by everyone here But ESPECIALLY by two of you who originally posted opinions on the cleaning and unoriginality of the Albania 5 Fr. with the unknown [U][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)](to me)[/COLOR][/U]TPGS grade. Finally, I wrote the following and it contains an error as was pointed out below by Numismat: [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]Correction in red.[/COLOR] Everyone, and I mean everyone...Mint engravers, mint press operators, mint floor foremen, well-known numismatic authorities on the minting process will tell you that the cartwheel effect we all like to see on our coins is caused by die erosion [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)](grooves in the die due to metal flow across the die face as coins are struck.[/COLOR] The die wear does not create the luster [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)](on the metal die which REFLECTS LIGHT from its surface) [/COLOR] (it is already on the metal planchet [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)][which also reflects light][/COLOR]) it enhances and changes the luster. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]Because the appearance/quality of the MINT LUSTER on the coin depends on the condition of the die and planchet. [/COLOR] Numismat replied: Dude, this is cringe-worthy. The fresher the die, the smoother the cartwheel effect.[COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]Yes, and with really fresh dies the "cartwheel" is different/virtually not there as on coins that are struck later in the die life.[/COLOR] When you have a worn die there are tiny stops and gaps [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]I know what you are saying; we call them "radials."[/COLOR] that make the cartwheel effect look, well, pixelated is the best word I can use to describe it. This We have been discussing Cabinet Friction vs wear. In the interest of this thread, I posted [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)](See #224 above) [/COLOR]a micrograph of a high point on a gold coin. So far there have been no opinions...[/QUOTE]
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