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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2303002, member: 24314"]Lehigh96 asked me:When are you drawing the line for "as minted?" If you say that the instant the coin is ejected from the die People I talk with have different opinions. For me, as soon as the coin leaves the die., then any bag marks on the coin should be considered damage Yes, for me also. So if the feed fingers or press bed puts marks on the coin as it is pushed off the press into the hopper (We are not talking about modern coins here. I have seen the "new" horizontal presses making quarters but I was not really much interested at the time - darn)  More marks occur in the riddlers', and bagging operation.  Nevertheless, marks do not make a coin AU but they can make it worth AU money or even turn it into a cull <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.Coins that exhibit "roll friction" are rolled later in the process but prior to circulation, unless you count bank to bank transactions as circulation. After the coin leaves the Mint, some say it is circulated; same goes when it was rolled; transferred to another bank; ditto, paid out.  I personally don't care and cannot know for certain much of a coin's prior history so if it "looks" AS MINTED when I get my grubby, "gloved" - actually NOT, hands on it - that's good enough for me. [/QUOTE]