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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2301855, member: 24314&quot;]True, but in the old days (No Trace of Wear) loss of luster from whatever the rub pushed the coin out of the Uncirculated grades.&nbsp; Anything we do to a coin that can be detected (and some that cannot) can reduce its originality.&nbsp; Take a perfect coin hot off the press and drill a hole in it (tech grade: Gem Unc w/hole) and we have reduced its state of preservation yet it is still fully lustrous, gemmy Uncirculated.&nbsp; That is a stupid example but it should make for a clear answer.&nbsp; Bag marks, scratches, etc. do not lower the coin to AU either but they do affect the coins MS level, collectability, and value.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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