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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2298985, member: 112&quot;]I understand what you are saying, and I&#039;ll readily agree that there are AU coins that look better than some MS coins, and yeah, real MS coins. And I say &quot;real&quot; to differentiate from what the TPGs call MS coins. A &quot;real&quot; MS coin is a coin that has no wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you see that&#039;s the thing, that&#039;s what we can&#039;t get past because that is the very definition of an uncirculated coin. Are you suggesting we change that definition because the AU coin &quot;looks better&quot; ? </p><p><br /></p><p>On that basis you could take an ugly, but truly MS, coin and polish it all up with a jeweler&#039;s cloth and make it &quot;look better&quot; than it did before. But if you did then it wouldn&#039;t be MS anymore now would it ? Just like it wouldn&#039;t be MS anymore if you dipped it until all the ugly toning and all traces of underlying luster were gone. But yeah it would &quot;look better&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>What you&#039;re describing is a way to accurately price coins with a grade. But you can&#039;t do that. That is because a grade&#039;s sole purpose is to accurately describe the condition, the state of preservation, of the coin. And the value of the coin has nothing to do with that. </p><p><br /></p><p>Can an AU coin be worth more than an MS coin ? Yes, absolutely, and they often are - to people who buy coins. It is only to people who buy plastic that they are not. And people who buy plastic do so because they don&#039;t know anything about coins. And if they don&#039;t know anything about coins, then how could they possibly know anything about the value of coins ? Answer, they can&#039;t.</p><p><br /></p><p>What you want is a way to be able to sell, better and more valuable coins, but coins that are graded lower, to people who don&#039;t know any better. You want a way to get the true value out of your coins with lower grades. And I can&#039;t blame you for that. </p><p><br /></p><p>But the answer is not to change the grading system because most people are ignorant. The answer is to educate those people.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is only with the advent of all these people who have no clue about coins coming into the hobby, plastic buyers coming into the hobby, that has brought us to the mess we are in today. It is because of them that the TPGs have done what they have done - which is to overgrade coins in an effort to get more money out of them. And because all of these people don&#039;t know any better, because they are ignorant, they, the TPGs, have succeeded.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, it&#039;s a simple but very sad fact that plastic buyers far, far outnumber coin buyers. So a grading system that was true and accurate was bastardized in order to make ignorant people happy.</p><p><br /></p><p>How can there not be something wrong with that idea ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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