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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2296558, member: 24314"]TubeRider, This is one man's opinion:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Loss of a coin's original luster is just that - no matter what the actual cause which we sometime don't know for sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. A loss of original luster can occur from chemical treatment, mechanical treatment (the hand of man involved), impact damage, or friction wear (rubbing of some kind from normal circulation).</p><p><br /></p><p>3. A loss of original luster cannot occur due to strike weakness (for whatever the cause [a new thread?]. However, the original luster on the parts of the coin that are not fully struck will look differently than the normal luster found on the rest of the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Loss of luster from any type of cleaning USUALLY (some surface alterations are very sophisticated) leaves evidence behind (often microscopic) for those who know what to look for [another thread? Ha, ha.].</p><p><br /></p><p>5.Loss of luster from impact such as a bag mark leaves surface damage and is usually shiny until the surface is changed by natural ageing, toning, cleaning or coin doctoring.</p><p><br /></p><p>6.Yes Virginia, there is an obvious difference between loss of luster from friction wear and roll/stacking pressure/slide rub. You only need to learn what each looks like. Stacking is usually shiny until the surface is changed by miss-handling, actual friction wear or the methods mentioned in #5 above.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, actual friction wear is a back-and-forth abrasion (in varying degrees) from whatever the cause. It is the "bad" kind that usually will lower the grade. Again,</p><p>this all depends on how the person feels about the look of the actual surface, amount of rub, magnification and eyesight. Some consider any loss of originality wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>Every collector must decide for themselves when there is enough loss of luster on a coin to drop it to AU. This goes for the TPGS professionals who also make allowance for a coin's composition, its value, and eye-appeal. Loss of luster in the field also provides clues to the MS/AU line. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regards[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2296558, member: 24314"]TubeRider, This is one man's opinion: 1. Loss of a coin's original luster is just that - no matter what the actual cause which we sometime don't know for sure. 2. A loss of original luster can occur from chemical treatment, mechanical treatment (the hand of man involved), impact damage, or friction wear (rubbing of some kind from normal circulation). 3. A loss of original luster cannot occur due to strike weakness (for whatever the cause [a new thread?]. However, the original luster on the parts of the coin that are not fully struck will look differently than the normal luster found on the rest of the coin. 4. Loss of luster from any type of cleaning USUALLY (some surface alterations are very sophisticated) leaves evidence behind (often microscopic) for those who know what to look for [another thread? Ha, ha.]. 5.Loss of luster from impact such as a bag mark leaves surface damage and is usually shiny until the surface is changed by natural ageing, toning, cleaning or coin doctoring. 6.Yes Virginia, there is an obvious difference between loss of luster from friction wear and roll/stacking pressure/slide rub. You only need to learn what each looks like. Stacking is usually shiny until the surface is changed by miss-handling, actual friction wear or the methods mentioned in #5 above. Finally, actual friction wear is a back-and-forth abrasion (in varying degrees) from whatever the cause. It is the "bad" kind that usually will lower the grade. Again, this all depends on how the person feels about the look of the actual surface, amount of rub, magnification and eyesight. Some consider any loss of originality wear. Every collector must decide for themselves when there is enough loss of luster on a coin to drop it to AU. This goes for the TPGS professionals who also make allowance for a coin's composition, its value, and eye-appeal. Loss of luster in the field also provides clues to the MS/AU line. Regards[/QUOTE]
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