CA Gold Scares Me!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ilmcoins, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    ....only because I don't know much about it. I had the chance to buy this one earlier today as part of a larger lot. I was not comfortable with making an offer and potentially ending up with a fake. Maybe I missed a good one? Either way, I need to study up on CA gold. FYI... could not weigh it due to being in 2x2.

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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    And these I would run not walk away from as they are faked so many times it isn't funny.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You should be glad you passed on it.
     
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  5. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Doesnt even look gold. Best to buy CA gold pieces in slabs. There are a lot of fakes floating around ebay too.
     
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  6. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    You are right! It did not test positive for 90% gold with my sigma which was also a red flag although I am not sure what % gold was in these and have not had a chance to look that up yet.
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If it does not show a value, like “dol,” it’s not good. It’s only a token or souvenir. Good pass!
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    That one looks so 'God Awful' that a kid at Chucky Cheese would be lucky to score it.

    Do you due diligence and research before ever venturing into such an endeavor.......
     
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  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Just about every form of old gold coins I can think of is best purchased in a slab whether you like slabs or not.
     
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  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If it has a bear on the back it is bad. If it doesn't have a denomination on it (D, DOL, Dollar etc) it is not a genuine piece, but may still be a jewelry piece made of low fineness gold. Those two rules eliminate most of the fake CA gold fractionals.(There are a FEW fakes out there that do have denominations on them)

    So with those two rules in mind we look at the piece you posted and find that the second rule identifies it as a fake.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    "CA Gold Scares Me!"

    Don't know if you're aware of this website or not, but you may find it helpful for info purposes - http://www.calgoldcoin.com/
     
  12. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Condor101 is absolutely correct about those two tells from my experience.

    "If it's got a Bear, Leave it there."

    As far as purity goes :

    "Without a Number, It's way Under."

    Even though many of these "coins" or "tokens" were actually made of gold, without doing some form of on-the-spot-assay you don't know what you're getting.
    Even the real gold ones are low quality/low karat gold, usually around 9Kt , at best.

    First, study and learn to recognize the fakes, then, study some more to learn to recognize the real ones.
    Be aware that only about 6% (if memory serves) of all California Gold pieces out there are actually real California Gold pieces.

    The link posted by GDJMSP is a good one but there are many sources for info. Just google "California Gold pieces" and you'll find lots of reading.

    Remember to Study first, Buy second.

    Good Luck !
     
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  13. twoshadows

    twoshadows Member

    As a coin dealer I am scared of California gold and any U.S. dollar gold coins as they are heavily counterfeited. I have to be certain before I would even think of buying and for the most part I am seldom certain. I will say any California gold that has a bear on the back...well you should run from that just like a real bear!
     
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  14. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Hey twoshadows , Welcome to Coin Talk !!
     
  15. twoshadows

    twoshadows Member

    Thanks, been a few years but I am back.
     
  16. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    first of all....they say gold doesn't tarnish....is that true?
     
  17. twoshadows

    twoshadows Member

    Let's just say I would rather find gold in the ground than copper, nickel or silver! lol
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No.
     
  19. twoshadows

    twoshadows Member

    Gold does hold up much better than all other metals that have been made into coins. Color may differ but the designs hold up well! And, should I ever find any with a metal detector I will force myself to be happy about it! lol
     
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