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<p>[QUOTE="Gao, post: 1147059, member: 19409"]Well I think the issue is that you usually see a left half/right half divide, as if one side was struck, then the other, which is consistent with how you would have to strike these coins with curved dies. It's a bit hard to see in a photograph, but you can sometimes there's almost a "fold" that divides these halves, making the coins more bent in one direction than the others, which is again consistent with mainstream ideas of how these were struck.</p><p><br /></p><p>I should probably point out that I'm referring mostly to bronzes, as I haven't looked into gold much. They're well out of my price range, so I haven't looked at auctions for them enough to get a feel for what sorts of errors they have.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It might be good to keep in mind that they didn't necessarily only use one method to make scyphate coins. A method to get the right shape in a gold coin may work poorly on bronzes, and inventing a new method to do bronzes does not automatically mean that you'd change anything with the way you did gold.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition, scyphates were made for a long enough time for changes of technique to take place at some point, and I would think that the Latin occupation of Constantinople was a big enough event that it could cause a shift in the ways that many things were done. I've heard it suggested that Latin occupation coins may have largely been private issues from merchants and the like. If this is true, then I wouldn't expect them to have access to any of the government controlled minting equipment, so we shouldn't be surprised if the coins were pretty different from what immediately preceded them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> While I've certainly seen plenty of double strikes, I don't usually see that left half/right half divide in non-scyphate coins. If you have some examples, feel free to share them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Gao, post: 1147059, member: 19409"]Well I think the issue is that you usually see a left half/right half divide, as if one side was struck, then the other, which is consistent with how you would have to strike these coins with curved dies. It's a bit hard to see in a photograph, but you can sometimes there's almost a "fold" that divides these halves, making the coins more bent in one direction than the others, which is again consistent with mainstream ideas of how these were struck. I should probably point out that I'm referring mostly to bronzes, as I haven't looked into gold much. They're well out of my price range, so I haven't looked at auctions for them enough to get a feel for what sorts of errors they have. It might be good to keep in mind that they didn't necessarily only use one method to make scyphate coins. A method to get the right shape in a gold coin may work poorly on bronzes, and inventing a new method to do bronzes does not automatically mean that you'd change anything with the way you did gold. In addition, scyphates were made for a long enough time for changes of technique to take place at some point, and I would think that the Latin occupation of Constantinople was a big enough event that it could cause a shift in the ways that many things were done. I've heard it suggested that Latin occupation coins may have largely been private issues from merchants and the like. If this is true, then I wouldn't expect them to have access to any of the government controlled minting equipment, so we shouldn't be surprised if the coins were pretty different from what immediately preceded them. While I've certainly seen plenty of double strikes, I don't usually see that left half/right half divide in non-scyphate coins. If you have some examples, feel free to share them.[/QUOTE]
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