Byzantine Gold Phocas is it Fake?

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  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I'm back to ask you collectors about coins like this, it doesn't look like the other ones listed on the bay, could it still be real? Jesus isn't holding a cross and the reverse doesn't look like the other's ones either. Any ideas on this coin? Here's a couple of pics!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Byzantine-Gold-Phocas-Jesus/133680006321

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  3. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    Wrong attribution. Not Phocas. More likely to be Constantine VII.

    Also, no weight, diameter stated by seller. Auction is ongoing and I can't comment on authenticity.

    It's almost certainly clipped. My personal opinion: there are better examples to be had.
     
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  4. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    I don't like the coin. It is crudely executed and it could very well be a fake.

    I think you can do better.

    Here are a couple of examples of an AV solidi and AV histamenon nomisma from that period. Both coins were sold recently at auction.

    Constantine VII, with Romanus II, AV solidus, Constantinople, 950-955 AD

    Constantine VII, with Romanus II, AV Solidus. Constantinople, AD 950-955 Roma 600 BP Sale 81.jpg

    Nicephorus II Phocas, with Basil II, AV Histamenon Nomisma. Constantinople, 964-965 AD

    Nicephorus II Phocas, Basil II, AV Histamenon Nomisma. Constantinople, AD 964-965 Roma 81 950BP.jpg

    As can be clearly seen, the workmanship is vastly superior to the coin you are considering.

    I suggest that you build up funds to buy one really nice type coin from a reputable dealer, through MA Shops, Vcoins, CNG or Forum. In the end it is worth the expenditure.
     
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  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yeah, that's sound advice there, I'll build up some funds and look at a later date at a reputable dealer! Very impressed that you both knew what it was! thumb3.gif ~Cheers!
     
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