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<p>[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 2850141, member: 44316"]A "double strike" is not the same as an "overstrike". <i>Overstrike</i> refers to a new type struck on a flan that was a coin of an older type. We had a thread on those:</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-overstrikes.302645/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-overstrikes.302645/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-overstrikes.302645/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Doublestrike</i> refers to a coin struck with the same dies twice, with different enough position so you can see both strikes. A <i>flip double strike</i> is one in which the two strikes have the obverse struck on the reverse and vice versa. The coin must have come off the dies, been judged to need a second try, and accidentally put back with the reverse to be struck by the obverse die.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin is even more complex. It is a triple flip strike. I think I can explain it as a single type (Justin, DO 9. Sear 63) where the large "M" has a star to the left and a cross to the right with obverse legend DN IVSTI - NVS PP AVG.</p><p>The coin is large: 31-29 mm and 15.17 grams. Interpretation of the strikes is informed by the usual 6:00 die axis of Byzantine copper.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]676240[/ATTACH] </p><p>This is one orientation. See the "NVS PP AVG" from 1:30 to 4:30? Then the bust should be upright and you can see some of it--head, clothing on the bust, but all weak. Using the 6:00 die axis, the other side is right-side up, so it had a large "M" with a cross to the right and "..ON" (of "CON") in exergue, officina A between the legs of the M.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "STI" at 7:00 on the reverse is best understood with the coin rotated and sides flipped.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a second orientation:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]676241[/ATTACH]</p><p>See the "STI" at 10:00- 11:00? And, again the "ST" part is visible on the obvious very off-center strike with more of the obverse legend: [DN]IVST . Now, knowing that the "STI" was at 10:30, I can see the top of the head (just above the left leg of the "M") which is why in the first orientation the symbol on the left side of the reverse M is obscure. But in this orientation you can see it on the reverse: a clear six-pointed star and mintmark "CON". You can see bits of the cross to the right and the cross above the M.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, this coin was struck three times and they never got it right. Once as in the first picture. Once as in the second picture, well-centered. And once as in the second picture, left side, very off-centered. (With the coin in hand I can't identify anything remaining from the other side of that off-center strike). Because of its sharp edge which obliterates the top of the M, I interpret the very off-center strike as the last of the three. As the aphorism has it, "If at first you don't succeed, try two more times and then give up" (aphorism slightly modified from its original form.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Tell me that Byzantine copper coins are not beautiful!</p><p><br /></p><p>Can you show us any doublestrikes?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 2850141, member: 44316"]A "double strike" is not the same as an "overstrike". [I]Overstrike[/I] refers to a new type struck on a flan that was a coin of an older type. We had a thread on those: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-overstrikes.302645/[/url] [I]Doublestrike[/I] refers to a coin struck with the same dies twice, with different enough position so you can see both strikes. A [I]flip double strike[/I] is one in which the two strikes have the obverse struck on the reverse and vice versa. The coin must have come off the dies, been judged to need a second try, and accidentally put back with the reverse to be struck by the obverse die. This coin is even more complex. It is a triple flip strike. I think I can explain it as a single type (Justin, DO 9. Sear 63) where the large "M" has a star to the left and a cross to the right with obverse legend DN IVSTI - NVS PP AVG. The coin is large: 31-29 mm and 15.17 grams. Interpretation of the strikes is informed by the usual 6:00 die axis of Byzantine copper. [ATTACH=full]676240[/ATTACH] This is one orientation. See the "NVS PP AVG" from 1:30 to 4:30? Then the bust should be upright and you can see some of it--head, clothing on the bust, but all weak. Using the 6:00 die axis, the other side is right-side up, so it had a large "M" with a cross to the right and "..ON" (of "CON") in exergue, officina A between the legs of the M. The "STI" at 7:00 on the reverse is best understood with the coin rotated and sides flipped. Here is a second orientation: [ATTACH=full]676241[/ATTACH] See the "STI" at 10:00- 11:00? And, again the "ST" part is visible on the obvious very off-center strike with more of the obverse legend: [DN]IVST . Now, knowing that the "STI" was at 10:30, I can see the top of the head (just above the left leg of the "M") which is why in the first orientation the symbol on the left side of the reverse M is obscure. But in this orientation you can see it on the reverse: a clear six-pointed star and mintmark "CON". You can see bits of the cross to the right and the cross above the M. So, this coin was struck three times and they never got it right. Once as in the first picture. Once as in the second picture, well-centered. And once as in the second picture, left side, very off-centered. (With the coin in hand I can't identify anything remaining from the other side of that off-center strike). Because of its sharp edge which obliterates the top of the M, I interpret the very off-center strike as the last of the three. As the aphorism has it, "If at first you don't succeed, try two more times and then give up" (aphorism slightly modified from its original form.) Tell me that Byzantine copper coins are not beautiful! Can you show us any doublestrikes?[/QUOTE]
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