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<p>[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 3608084, member: 95174"]Right now the main way collectors communicate with one and another is through Sear numbers, the work was fantastic for its time but now we have added so many more issues it needs to be updated. The values need to be changed as well.</p><p>The Roman coin issues were updated but the Byzantine book was just reprinted. </p><p><br /></p><p>@<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/valentinian.44316/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/valentinian.44316/">Valentinian</a> , you mention many of these references on your page ( it is excellent BTW) but I feel for a real need to have a change, Sear's book is used to communicate but it is 40 years old now. It needs to be updated or replaced with another work.</p><p><br /></p><p>The most effective way to update is an online catalog but the problem with that is they seem only to follow Sear numbers, again not leaving room for additions. Eg. Labrum and wildwinds. They are picture sources for SBCV. </p><p><br /></p><p>DOC Volumes I-V are now available free on line and they are the most complete of any catalogs but I think it will take a while for collectors to start using those numbers on a regular basis. </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-1" rel="nofollow">https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-2" rel="nofollow">https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-2</a></p><p><a href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-3" rel="nofollow">https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-3</a></p><p><a href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-4" rel="nofollow">https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-4</a></p><p><a href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton" rel="nofollow">https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Sadly, the DOC catalogs do not give value or rarity. </p><p><br /></p><p>Griersons book on byzantine coins is a great reference for collectors but the DOC volumes are far more complete and again collectors rarely reference a Grierson number for a coin type. </p><p><br /></p><p>We also have Sommers work printed in German with values but it seems incomplete leaving out many issues, I am not certain but I get the feeling these coins are in his collection, I have looked up coins in his catalog but I do not read German to understand what was included in the catalog and what wasn't. again it is rare to see his numbers used for a coin type. </p><p><br /></p><p>The most up to date information on any time period of coins is on articles on Academia.edu but again not organized, not edited. Just a jumble of papers of new ideas and new information. </p><p><br /></p><p>Their are also many new catalogs dealing with time periods of the Byzantine coinage.</p><p><br /></p><p>CLBC for 12th century ( great line drawings and fairly complete but poor science I have made my issues with this book known before.) </p><p>The two Byzantine in Italy but they cut off at 900ad ( Of course because they lost that territory.) </p><p><br /></p><p>The Palaeologus time period seems very much in vogue with academics but not enough collectors for the time period they are dealing with. </p><p><br /></p><p>Whatever happens the dealers are the one who set reference books to use, the collectors will follow after that. DOC volumes are the most complete but they lack pricing so many coin dealers wont go that way. I have a feeling David Sears book will remain the main reference for many collectors for a long time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 3608084, member: 95174"]Right now the main way collectors communicate with one and another is through Sear numbers, the work was fantastic for its time but now we have added so many more issues it needs to be updated. The values need to be changed as well. The Roman coin issues were updated but the Byzantine book was just reprinted. @[URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/valentinian.44316/']Valentinian[/URL] , you mention many of these references on your page ( it is excellent BTW) but I feel for a real need to have a change, Sear's book is used to communicate but it is 40 years old now. It needs to be updated or replaced with another work. The most effective way to update is an online catalog but the problem with that is they seem only to follow Sear numbers, again not leaving room for additions. Eg. Labrum and wildwinds. They are picture sources for SBCV. DOC Volumes I-V are now available free on line and they are the most complete of any catalogs but I think it will take a while for collectors to start using those numbers on a regular basis. [URL]https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-1[/URL] [URL]https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-2[/URL] [URL]https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-3[/URL] [URL]https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton-oaks-collection-and-in-the-whittemore-collection-4[/URL] [URL]https://www.doaks.org/research/publications/books/catalogue-of-the-byzantine-coins-in-the-dumbarton[/URL] Sadly, the DOC catalogs do not give value or rarity. Griersons book on byzantine coins is a great reference for collectors but the DOC volumes are far more complete and again collectors rarely reference a Grierson number for a coin type. We also have Sommers work printed in German with values but it seems incomplete leaving out many issues, I am not certain but I get the feeling these coins are in his collection, I have looked up coins in his catalog but I do not read German to understand what was included in the catalog and what wasn't. again it is rare to see his numbers used for a coin type. The most up to date information on any time period of coins is on articles on Academia.edu but again not organized, not edited. Just a jumble of papers of new ideas and new information. Their are also many new catalogs dealing with time periods of the Byzantine coinage. CLBC for 12th century ( great line drawings and fairly complete but poor science I have made my issues with this book known before.) The two Byzantine in Italy but they cut off at 900ad ( Of course because they lost that territory.) The Palaeologus time period seems very much in vogue with academics but not enough collectors for the time period they are dealing with. Whatever happens the dealers are the one who set reference books to use, the collectors will follow after that. DOC volumes are the most complete but they lack pricing so many coin dealers wont go that way. I have a feeling David Sears book will remain the main reference for many collectors for a long time.[/QUOTE]
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