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<p>[QUOTE="Rono, post: 441513, member: 6492"]Hi good people,</p><p> </p><p>Some of you are spot on (vess, cloudsweeper) that this is NOT your normal market so don't expect normal pricing. There is a huge and abnormal divergence between the paper price of gold and silver bullion and the supply of 'hands on' physical bullion. Hell, the paper and physical markets are so disjoint they hardly resemble each other. </p><p> </p><p>There are a lot of reasons for this including the bullion ETF's, naked shorting of gold and silver futures, and so much leverage in the paper market that I read there was 10 times more paper silver than there was physical supply on the planet. There are some that feel the smaller dealers don't care to sell at a loss. There are some that blame this situation on a conspiracy. Feh. I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, but realize the acknowledge that if anyone is in a position to manipulate the market - they will. I would too.</p><p> </p><p>Regardless, the paper price is so low now that available supply on the street has all but disappeared. This reminds me of the Econ 101 supply / demand curve for Price Controls. When prices are artificially low, the supply disappears. Sort of what's happening in the credit market - if 5% doesn't cover the risk of lending you money and now the gov't lowering rates to 4% - do you really think your chances of getting a loan have improved?</p><p> </p><p>The net/net result is that premiums have gone thru the bloody roof - IFF you can find anything to buy.</p><p> </p><p>Yeah, theres stuff on Ebay, but it's pricey - and tight supply is bidding it up further. As for dealers, you really can't be choosy -if you want to buy something - the supply is so limited they've got you. Sorry, I know it's a bite. </p><p> </p><p>peace,</p><p> </p><p>rono[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Rono, post: 441513, member: 6492"]Hi good people, Some of you are spot on (vess, cloudsweeper) that this is NOT your normal market so don't expect normal pricing. There is a huge and abnormal divergence between the paper price of gold and silver bullion and the supply of 'hands on' physical bullion. Hell, the paper and physical markets are so disjoint they hardly resemble each other. There are a lot of reasons for this including the bullion ETF's, naked shorting of gold and silver futures, and so much leverage in the paper market that I read there was 10 times more paper silver than there was physical supply on the planet. There are some that feel the smaller dealers don't care to sell at a loss. There are some that blame this situation on a conspiracy. Feh. I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, but realize the acknowledge that if anyone is in a position to manipulate the market - they will. I would too. Regardless, the paper price is so low now that available supply on the street has all but disappeared. This reminds me of the Econ 101 supply / demand curve for Price Controls. When prices are artificially low, the supply disappears. Sort of what's happening in the credit market - if 5% doesn't cover the risk of lending you money and now the gov't lowering rates to 4% - do you really think your chances of getting a loan have improved? The net/net result is that premiums have gone thru the bloody roof - IFF you can find anything to buy. Yeah, theres stuff on Ebay, but it's pricey - and tight supply is bidding it up further. As for dealers, you really can't be choosy -if you want to buy something - the supply is so limited they've got you. Sorry, I know it's a bite. peace, rono[/QUOTE]
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