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<p>[QUOTE="PyrotekNX, post: 88374, member: 3918"]Older coins, especially from the mid 1800s and before were commonly cleaned by collectors. Virtually any grader will slab a cleaned coin prior to the 1850s just as long as it wasn't harshly cleaned. Cleaning was a commonly accepted practice in those days. Virtually all silver coins pre 1850 have been cleaned. </p><p>Coins at various museums were routinely dipped and even polished. There have been stories of museum curators drinking out of the wrong cup while they were up late cleaning coins with potassium cyanide.</p><p><br /></p><p>Flying Eagle cents are on the cusp on that era and most have been cleaned at one point or another in their history. There is a difference of being lightly cleaned and retoning naturally over the course of 100 years and being scoured with a brass brush, whizzed and retoned in an oven.</p><p><br /></p><p>Older and rarer coins have a much more relaxed grading scale because there was no such thing as a ms70 in those days.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coins were also much more utilitarian compared to today. Coins were the most common form of currency and were worth much more than today. Factory workers and coal miners made less than a dollar a day's wages. Many young numismaticists don't appreciate just how much $5 was in the 19th century. It would take several months of saving to get a $20 double eagle.</p><p><br /></p><p>US currency had a lot of buying power and typically coin collecting was reserved for the very rich. Coin collections were typically much smaller as well. This means that individual coins got more attention. There wasn't any such thing as non reacting, protective holders until the late 20th century. 3rd party grading and encapsulating started only about 20 years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>The vast majority of gold and silver coins were melted. It is not uncommon for a modern collector to have 50,000 or more coins but it was unheard of in those days.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would not mind having this Flying Eagle in my collection. It has very strong details and isn't dinged or scratched up. I think when PCGS runs out high grade FE cents to grade, they will consider grading problem coins. I believe there are a couple of graders that will still net grade problem coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="PyrotekNX, post: 88374, member: 3918"]Older coins, especially from the mid 1800s and before were commonly cleaned by collectors. Virtually any grader will slab a cleaned coin prior to the 1850s just as long as it wasn't harshly cleaned. Cleaning was a commonly accepted practice in those days. Virtually all silver coins pre 1850 have been cleaned. Coins at various museums were routinely dipped and even polished. There have been stories of museum curators drinking out of the wrong cup while they were up late cleaning coins with potassium cyanide. Flying Eagle cents are on the cusp on that era and most have been cleaned at one point or another in their history. There is a difference of being lightly cleaned and retoning naturally over the course of 100 years and being scoured with a brass brush, whizzed and retoned in an oven. Older and rarer coins have a much more relaxed grading scale because there was no such thing as a ms70 in those days. Coins were also much more utilitarian compared to today. Coins were the most common form of currency and were worth much more than today. Factory workers and coal miners made less than a dollar a day's wages. Many young numismaticists don't appreciate just how much $5 was in the 19th century. It would take several months of saving to get a $20 double eagle. US currency had a lot of buying power and typically coin collecting was reserved for the very rich. Coin collections were typically much smaller as well. This means that individual coins got more attention. There wasn't any such thing as non reacting, protective holders until the late 20th century. 3rd party grading and encapsulating started only about 20 years ago. The vast majority of gold and silver coins were melted. It is not uncommon for a modern collector to have 50,000 or more coins but it was unheard of in those days. I would not mind having this Flying Eagle in my collection. It has very strong details and isn't dinged or scratched up. I think when PCGS runs out high grade FE cents to grade, they will consider grading problem coins. I believe there are a couple of graders that will still net grade problem coins.[/QUOTE]
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