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<p>[QUOTE="BlueTexan, post: 3494432, member: 103131"]New member, old collector. Been collecting since 1973, serious the last 4 years. My middle son wanted to go to Kim's Gun Show in San Antonio yesterday. This is a tale of "an old guy should know better".</p><p><br /></p><p>Bought some decent coins and saw a 1921 peace dollar in a $25 bin (more on that coin later). Then I ran into a guy with miscellaneous trays of coins. When I saw a 1955 double die in VF/XF condition for $25, I should have ran away. When I saw the 1964 peace dollar, I should have started laughing. But, I bought some trade dollars, a couple warn/rare Peace and Morgan dollars, a 1921 d mercury dime, and the double die. 11 coins, $275. I've never run into blatant counterfeiting before. They guy said he knew nothing of coins, but other collectors verified weights and metallic content (odd thing to say if you're legit). </p><p><br /></p><p>I get home, and verify they are all forgeries. The main give away was the thickness. I didn't have a scale, but they felt right on weight. However, they are much thicker than good Peace or Morgans. I don't have trade dollars, and didn't realize the 1878 cc is a rare proof. I was more ticked than anything else. I was able to go back today (yes, Easter Sunday) to get my money back. The guy (I can't call him a dealer) said he said they might not be genuine. I had to threaten him, regarding the impact of selling counterfeit currency, to get my money (that and my wife being there, he was pretty intimidated by her - she was more pissed than me).</p><p><br /></p><p>Pictures below. Yes, lots of lessons - use reputable dealers, make sure you can get your money back, and if it is too good to be true, it is.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, about that 1921 peace dollar. I just ordered a scale and caliper, but this looks like a legit peace dollar, but it can't be a 1921 (the relief isn't high, the crown spikes go too far into the E in Liberty, and the 1 in the d ate is too far to the right of the designer initials). Not sure what I have here, but I wasn't too concerned because it was only $25. I'm guessing it won't match dimensions or weight, but is feels and sounds like solid silver.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]925386[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925387[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925388[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925389[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925390[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925391[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925392[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925393[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BlueTexan, post: 3494432, member: 103131"]New member, old collector. Been collecting since 1973, serious the last 4 years. My middle son wanted to go to Kim's Gun Show in San Antonio yesterday. This is a tale of "an old guy should know better". Bought some decent coins and saw a 1921 peace dollar in a $25 bin (more on that coin later). Then I ran into a guy with miscellaneous trays of coins. When I saw a 1955 double die in VF/XF condition for $25, I should have ran away. When I saw the 1964 peace dollar, I should have started laughing. But, I bought some trade dollars, a couple warn/rare Peace and Morgan dollars, a 1921 d mercury dime, and the double die. 11 coins, $275. I've never run into blatant counterfeiting before. They guy said he knew nothing of coins, but other collectors verified weights and metallic content (odd thing to say if you're legit). I get home, and verify they are all forgeries. The main give away was the thickness. I didn't have a scale, but they felt right on weight. However, they are much thicker than good Peace or Morgans. I don't have trade dollars, and didn't realize the 1878 cc is a rare proof. I was more ticked than anything else. I was able to go back today (yes, Easter Sunday) to get my money back. The guy (I can't call him a dealer) said he said they might not be genuine. I had to threaten him, regarding the impact of selling counterfeit currency, to get my money (that and my wife being there, he was pretty intimidated by her - she was more pissed than me). Pictures below. Yes, lots of lessons - use reputable dealers, make sure you can get your money back, and if it is too good to be true, it is. Now, about that 1921 peace dollar. I just ordered a scale and caliper, but this looks like a legit peace dollar, but it can't be a 1921 (the relief isn't high, the crown spikes go too far into the E in Liberty, and the 1 in the d ate is too far to the right of the designer initials). Not sure what I have here, but I wasn't too concerned because it was only $25. I'm guessing it won't match dimensions or weight, but is feels and sounds like solid silver. [ATTACH=full]925386[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925387[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925388[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925389[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925390[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925391[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925392[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]925393[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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