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<p>[QUOTE="Ed Zak, post: 14082, member: 824"]I had the same experience with a ANA coin dealer (who will remain nameless) in the Daytona Beach area. </p><p><br /></p><p>I was putting together a collection of 1902 coins to commemorate my buddie's tavern (The 1902 Tavern in New London, CT). The finished display (which is now in the bar), detailed the history of the bar whereby all of the coins put the 100 year old tavern into proper historical perspective. I had strikes from all denominations...not MS coins, but all were VG or better to show the age of both coin and tavern. I framed it with a picture from 1902 and it looks great.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I was buying a 1902-O Morgan Dollar, this dealer wanted $45 for a EF40 (at best) grade!?! Dumbfounded, I asked if I could borrow his 2004 Red Book and looked up the mintage. I showed him that the 1902-O EF40 was only $16. He commented that prices have gone up at least 30% since the book was published and I told him, okay...add 30% to $16 and I will give him $21. He then told me that it was better grade than EF40, so $45 was the price. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the best part...he had a display of Morgan Dollars SHOWING each coin, in each grade, from VF-20 to MS65! With coin in hand, I showed him that his 1902-O coin (compared to the EF40 Morgan dollar on display) was not nearly as nice.</p><p><br /></p><p>He then asked me to leave...</p><p><br /></p><p>But the good news is I did find a local ANA dealer that would tell me if I had good stuff to good junk...always from the hip. Because he was honest, I have been one of his best REPEAT customers and he has "slapped me silly" if I have made bone head buys. </p><p><br /></p><p>For instance, he took my SGS "graded" coin that I bought on ebay (it was a MS70 at such a low price...being a newbie at the time, how could I refuse!?!) and told me to cross-it-over at PCGS. He told that if PCGS would grade it MS66 or better, he would pay for the slab cost and S&H. I figured that a 4 point swing wouldn't be possible. What happened is that it came back "dead-on-arrival" as the minimum grade of MS66 was not possible.</p><p><br /></p><p>He has sold me coins at prices fair to him and I and let me lay away my 1909-S VDB MS63BN (PCGS) where others offered him more than what I paid. He stated, "Can't do...already have my customer and we already shook on it." Imagine that!! A hand shake still means something!</p><p><br /></p><p>So, good, bad or otherwise...I learned to research my coins and READ. This forum is great because I learned from these threads and I hope I contributed as well.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ed Zak, post: 14082, member: 824"]I had the same experience with a ANA coin dealer (who will remain nameless) in the Daytona Beach area. I was putting together a collection of 1902 coins to commemorate my buddie's tavern (The 1902 Tavern in New London, CT). The finished display (which is now in the bar), detailed the history of the bar whereby all of the coins put the 100 year old tavern into proper historical perspective. I had strikes from all denominations...not MS coins, but all were VG or better to show the age of both coin and tavern. I framed it with a picture from 1902 and it looks great. When I was buying a 1902-O Morgan Dollar, this dealer wanted $45 for a EF40 (at best) grade!?! Dumbfounded, I asked if I could borrow his 2004 Red Book and looked up the mintage. I showed him that the 1902-O EF40 was only $16. He commented that prices have gone up at least 30% since the book was published and I told him, okay...add 30% to $16 and I will give him $21. He then told me that it was better grade than EF40, so $45 was the price. Here's the best part...he had a display of Morgan Dollars SHOWING each coin, in each grade, from VF-20 to MS65! With coin in hand, I showed him that his 1902-O coin (compared to the EF40 Morgan dollar on display) was not nearly as nice. He then asked me to leave... But the good news is I did find a local ANA dealer that would tell me if I had good stuff to good junk...always from the hip. Because he was honest, I have been one of his best REPEAT customers and he has "slapped me silly" if I have made bone head buys. For instance, he took my SGS "graded" coin that I bought on ebay (it was a MS70 at such a low price...being a newbie at the time, how could I refuse!?!) and told me to cross-it-over at PCGS. He told that if PCGS would grade it MS66 or better, he would pay for the slab cost and S&H. I figured that a 4 point swing wouldn't be possible. What happened is that it came back "dead-on-arrival" as the minimum grade of MS66 was not possible. He has sold me coins at prices fair to him and I and let me lay away my 1909-S VDB MS63BN (PCGS) where others offered him more than what I paid. He stated, "Can't do...already have my customer and we already shook on it." Imagine that!! A hand shake still means something! So, good, bad or otherwise...I learned to research my coins and READ. This forum is great because I learned from these threads and I hope I contributed as well.[/QUOTE]
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