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<p>[QUOTE="Ian, post: 22365, member: 283"]I have to have a bit of a chuckle reading this Doug.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I first started buying via the internet, all the stuff I was interested in seemed to be in the US. I had all the same problems but in reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the stuff I was after fell into the under $50 category at the time, but sometimes it went higher....sometimes much much higher.</p><p><br /></p><p>The options I had when dealing with the average John Doe were cash in $'s or take a hike. I also had the option of American Express cheques at the addition expense of time, effort, admin fees and a less than `Ian friendly' exchange rate. Either way, if I was interested in the item, I had to consider the REAL costs involved. Change £'s to $'s there are fees and less than favourable exchange rates too. so a $5 item might cost $6 by the tiome the money has been changed....then there is the cost of getting it to the other side of the pond.....(postage)</p><p><br /></p><p>In over 1,000 deals I only had one real bad experience, and it wasn't postal. It was a bad egg in the US . I won't go there though. A bad experience is a bad experience and detail is unimportant. Suffice it to say that as a european buyer I had no recourse. </p><p><br /></p><p>My normal approach is: a) trust until proven otherwise. I would say that 97.5% of the human race is fundamentally honest and above board. I make no assumption that I am destined to only meet the bad eggs. I do my due dilligence in finding out who or what I am dealing with first (as anyone with any spark of intelligence would) but after that I assume that they want my repeat business and that they wish to maintain a decent reputation. b) postal services are in business to deliver letters. They deliver letters. Letters that don't get delivered are in the minority. Sure, there are bad eggs everywhere but statistically speaking if you lose any more than one letter in a thousand then either the gods really do have it in for you and youn should insure every letter you send, or the sellers are not being honest when they say `it's in the post'.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been asked for as much as $16 to send a $5 item. (Sooper dooper insured registered, signed for, fighter jet escorted.....). If i'd taken all the options I was expected to take I would have spent three times as much on delivery of the item than it's cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>My delivery preference is simple airmail. It gets posted incognito and invariably arrives without problem. Take a registered package splatter it with `look i'm valuable', and insured as it may be.....if it goes missing the insurance does not get the item back, just the cost (AND if you are lucky).</p><p><br /></p><p>As I said in over 1,000 (pre paypal) deals with the US....only one bad egg encountered. All transactions done by cash / ordinary airmail in both directions. I reckon the amount I saved in not going OTT on `trust' issues (insurance / registration) is in excess of $5,000 over the duration. That is a sizeable part of anyone's coin purchasing budget!</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure, on big money purchases, a little extra to provide some comfort is not a bad idea. However on day by day items such as circa $50 and under one has to be a tad more pragmatic.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would however say that my experience with buying from France of late has not been a happy one. Their postal services seem to be in a state of some confusion at the moment. I have lost a few letters (with payments enclosed) in the past few months. The French postal service even lost a registered letter (I got the financial compensation of what I paid for the coin involved, but that does not compensate for the fact that the coin was extremely rare and my chances of finding another one are little to none).</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't accept credit card payments whether by fax or by paypal. </p><p><br /></p><p>Most people in europe don't use credit cards. They do in the UK (and how!). Paypal is slow to catch on, but for transfers from credit balances....it can't be beat.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ian, post: 22365, member: 283"]I have to have a bit of a chuckle reading this Doug. When I first started buying via the internet, all the stuff I was interested in seemed to be in the US. I had all the same problems but in reverse. All the stuff I was after fell into the under $50 category at the time, but sometimes it went higher....sometimes much much higher. The options I had when dealing with the average John Doe were cash in $'s or take a hike. I also had the option of American Express cheques at the addition expense of time, effort, admin fees and a less than `Ian friendly' exchange rate. Either way, if I was interested in the item, I had to consider the REAL costs involved. Change £'s to $'s there are fees and less than favourable exchange rates too. so a $5 item might cost $6 by the tiome the money has been changed....then there is the cost of getting it to the other side of the pond.....(postage) In over 1,000 deals I only had one real bad experience, and it wasn't postal. It was a bad egg in the US . I won't go there though. A bad experience is a bad experience and detail is unimportant. Suffice it to say that as a european buyer I had no recourse. My normal approach is: a) trust until proven otherwise. I would say that 97.5% of the human race is fundamentally honest and above board. I make no assumption that I am destined to only meet the bad eggs. I do my due dilligence in finding out who or what I am dealing with first (as anyone with any spark of intelligence would) but after that I assume that they want my repeat business and that they wish to maintain a decent reputation. b) postal services are in business to deliver letters. They deliver letters. Letters that don't get delivered are in the minority. Sure, there are bad eggs everywhere but statistically speaking if you lose any more than one letter in a thousand then either the gods really do have it in for you and youn should insure every letter you send, or the sellers are not being honest when they say `it's in the post'. I've been asked for as much as $16 to send a $5 item. (Sooper dooper insured registered, signed for, fighter jet escorted.....). If i'd taken all the options I was expected to take I would have spent three times as much on delivery of the item than it's cost. My delivery preference is simple airmail. It gets posted incognito and invariably arrives without problem. Take a registered package splatter it with `look i'm valuable', and insured as it may be.....if it goes missing the insurance does not get the item back, just the cost (AND if you are lucky). As I said in over 1,000 (pre paypal) deals with the US....only one bad egg encountered. All transactions done by cash / ordinary airmail in both directions. I reckon the amount I saved in not going OTT on `trust' issues (insurance / registration) is in excess of $5,000 over the duration. That is a sizeable part of anyone's coin purchasing budget! Sure, on big money purchases, a little extra to provide some comfort is not a bad idea. However on day by day items such as circa $50 and under one has to be a tad more pragmatic. I would however say that my experience with buying from France of late has not been a happy one. Their postal services seem to be in a state of some confusion at the moment. I have lost a few letters (with payments enclosed) in the past few months. The French postal service even lost a registered letter (I got the financial compensation of what I paid for the coin involved, but that does not compensate for the fact that the coin was extremely rare and my chances of finding another one are little to none). I don't accept credit card payments whether by fax or by paypal. Most people in europe don't use credit cards. They do in the UK (and how!). Paypal is slow to catch on, but for transfers from credit balances....it can't be beat. Ian[/QUOTE]
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