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<p>[QUOTE="Paul M., post: 2550264, member: 73165"]Okay, let's examine the situation more carefully. What happens if the dealer is only willing to refund the original purchase price of $86? In that case, the dealer made money on the coin at the original purchase price, and, since its melt value is around $600 now, is going to make a further $500. Meanwhile, our collector is out the coin, and the paltry refund of $86 after inflation means he's effectively taking a net loss of at least $200, and probably gets left with a bad taste in his mouth from the whole deal.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the dealer buys the coin back as scrap, then the dealer made money on the original sale in the 70s, and isn't going to lose money buying it back as scrap. Our collector is still out the coin, but he's made a few hundred on the bullion value. Since neither the collector nor the dealer knew the coin was fake until it was sent to the grading service, it's probably a good fake, and there's no love lost because the dealer failed to recognize it as such.</p><p><br /></p><p>There's another option, too. The dealer could say "I intended to sell you an authentic $10 Liberty, and I'm going to make sure you get one." In that case, the dealer trades an authentic $10 Liberty of the same date, mint, and grade for the fake. If we're talking about a common date coin with not a lot of numismatic premium, the collector ends up with the coin, and the dealer probably ends up taking a small loss equal to the difference between the numismatic and bullion values of the coin, but gets a ton of goodwill in return.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of these options, as both the dealer and the collector, I would prefer either option 2 or option 3. Option 2 leaves us both about even, financially speaking, and doesn't damage the relationship. Option 3 is the dealer going above and beyond, and is probably the option he should choose if the loss he'll take isn't excessive, simply because it makes the collector whole and creates a ton of goodwill.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paul M., post: 2550264, member: 73165"]Okay, let's examine the situation more carefully. What happens if the dealer is only willing to refund the original purchase price of $86? In that case, the dealer made money on the coin at the original purchase price, and, since its melt value is around $600 now, is going to make a further $500. Meanwhile, our collector is out the coin, and the paltry refund of $86 after inflation means he's effectively taking a net loss of at least $200, and probably gets left with a bad taste in his mouth from the whole deal. If the dealer buys the coin back as scrap, then the dealer made money on the original sale in the 70s, and isn't going to lose money buying it back as scrap. Our collector is still out the coin, but he's made a few hundred on the bullion value. Since neither the collector nor the dealer knew the coin was fake until it was sent to the grading service, it's probably a good fake, and there's no love lost because the dealer failed to recognize it as such. There's another option, too. The dealer could say "I intended to sell you an authentic $10 Liberty, and I'm going to make sure you get one." In that case, the dealer trades an authentic $10 Liberty of the same date, mint, and grade for the fake. If we're talking about a common date coin with not a lot of numismatic premium, the collector ends up with the coin, and the dealer probably ends up taking a small loss equal to the difference between the numismatic and bullion values of the coin, but gets a ton of goodwill in return. Of these options, as both the dealer and the collector, I would prefer either option 2 or option 3. Option 2 leaves us both about even, financially speaking, and doesn't damage the relationship. Option 3 is the dealer going above and beyond, and is probably the option he should choose if the loss he'll take isn't excessive, simply because it makes the collector whole and creates a ton of goodwill.[/QUOTE]
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