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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1547139, member: 13650"]As I have said in the past, I'm a coin hoarder like many here. I have a hoarder mentality when it comes to coins. Once in a while, a new expensive toy catches my eye and the best way to obtain said toy is to liquidate a few things and just get it over with. Then it's like trading one toy for another without cutting into my paycheck. Then I don't get in trouble! But when it comes to selling coins, I always have an excuse over why one coin or another is "sacred" and can't be sold. I have a long list of excuses. </p><p><br /></p><p> Anyway, others have mentioned on here, it is good for anyone who regularly buys coins to also sell once in a while in order to get a real "feel" for what things should sell for. Especially if you're going to use ebay. If anyone here has never tried selling, you might be shocked at what it's like. Let me just say we are fortunate there are as many sellers left there as there are. </p><p><br /></p><p> It is not fun being a seller. People are rude. People are CHEAP. They expect perfection. They expect the World from you. Once they buy they think they own you. Everything is taken for granted. They don't care that you are losing a total of 12% of the sale back to ebay and paypal. They don't care that you are also losing shipping out of the sale. They just want to buy that coin as cheaply as possible. Once you pay everybody for their services, and ship away your beautiful coin, you almost feel violated. It feels like you've been robbed. You feel like you may as well have just saved the coin like you originally intended to. lol </p><p><br /></p><p> I've also learned that you almost always get burned on buy it nows. I've convinced myself before that a buy it now was a fair price. A couple years ago, I paid $290 for a coin. Some of that went to shipping of course. I listed it the other day, willing to take a loss on it just to liquidate and recoup some cash. I conceded. I set a reserve on it of $260. Now keep in mind! If it sells at $260, after fees and shipping/insurance you're left with about $220. So I went in WILLING to lose $70 on the coin. Even though I've held on to it for a few years. </p><p><br /></p><p> It was bid up to $212 and ended without meeting the reserve. lol Ok screw it. It's going back in the box. I'm not that desperate. </p><p><br /></p><p> Then, some of you may have noticed I tried selling my MS Franklin half set. Kind of wanted to sell, kind of didn't, but I felt if I got a fair price for them, I could let it go. AGAIN, I conceded that I will give people a break. I won't try to get the full cash value out that I had in it, which was well recorded. Selling a set is NOT fun. Even though, that is what many people here are trying to do as a goal. Putting sets together. There should be a premium on a full set because of the work involved. Instead, there's a huge discount! Because they get too expensive. Nobody has the money and people tend to work on their own sets one coin at a time so it's affordable. Take this into account if you are building a set. </p><p><br /></p><p> Over several years I carefully put that set together. It was a lot of driving around. A lot of time. It's a pretty premium set. It cost me over a grand to do it. 7 of the 38 coins were over $50. But I was like ok, AGAIN, I will give someone a break. Buy it cheap, I'll just liquidate it. Put a buy it now of $800 on it or best offer. After fees, you absolutely get hammered. If somebody graciously went with the buy it now, this was a $380 LOSS to me. MELT VALUE of the #$%# set is $500!! A beat up worn set would have to go for $500. One person offered $600. So if I was willing to lose $560, I could have sold the set. I gave up again. There's no way. </p><p><br /></p><p> I spent a lot of time buying coins over the years expecting the dollar value to at least maintain. When I go to sell something, I expect to at least break even. That's all I want. If I want a quick sell, I'm willing to lose a little. Anything popular seems to maintain a good, known value. But anything even a little off the beaten path, you might get a rude awakening if you go to sell right now. </p><p><br /></p><p> Moral of the story. Don't blow the farm on coins. As a buyer, you are in a bubble. Oblivious to and unaffected by whats going on with the market or what other people will pay for something. As a seller, you are at the mercy of the market. Then, the real market matters.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1547139, member: 13650"]As I have said in the past, I'm a coin hoarder like many here. I have a hoarder mentality when it comes to coins. Once in a while, a new expensive toy catches my eye and the best way to obtain said toy is to liquidate a few things and just get it over with. Then it's like trading one toy for another without cutting into my paycheck. Then I don't get in trouble! But when it comes to selling coins, I always have an excuse over why one coin or another is "sacred" and can't be sold. I have a long list of excuses. Anyway, others have mentioned on here, it is good for anyone who regularly buys coins to also sell once in a while in order to get a real "feel" for what things should sell for. Especially if you're going to use ebay. If anyone here has never tried selling, you might be shocked at what it's like. Let me just say we are fortunate there are as many sellers left there as there are. It is not fun being a seller. People are rude. People are CHEAP. They expect perfection. They expect the World from you. Once they buy they think they own you. Everything is taken for granted. They don't care that you are losing a total of 12% of the sale back to ebay and paypal. They don't care that you are also losing shipping out of the sale. They just want to buy that coin as cheaply as possible. Once you pay everybody for their services, and ship away your beautiful coin, you almost feel violated. It feels like you've been robbed. You feel like you may as well have just saved the coin like you originally intended to. lol I've also learned that you almost always get burned on buy it nows. I've convinced myself before that a buy it now was a fair price. A couple years ago, I paid $290 for a coin. Some of that went to shipping of course. I listed it the other day, willing to take a loss on it just to liquidate and recoup some cash. I conceded. I set a reserve on it of $260. Now keep in mind! If it sells at $260, after fees and shipping/insurance you're left with about $220. So I went in WILLING to lose $70 on the coin. Even though I've held on to it for a few years. It was bid up to $212 and ended without meeting the reserve. lol Ok screw it. It's going back in the box. I'm not that desperate. Then, some of you may have noticed I tried selling my MS Franklin half set. Kind of wanted to sell, kind of didn't, but I felt if I got a fair price for them, I could let it go. AGAIN, I conceded that I will give people a break. I won't try to get the full cash value out that I had in it, which was well recorded. Selling a set is NOT fun. Even though, that is what many people here are trying to do as a goal. Putting sets together. There should be a premium on a full set because of the work involved. Instead, there's a huge discount! Because they get too expensive. Nobody has the money and people tend to work on their own sets one coin at a time so it's affordable. Take this into account if you are building a set. Over several years I carefully put that set together. It was a lot of driving around. A lot of time. It's a pretty premium set. It cost me over a grand to do it. 7 of the 38 coins were over $50. But I was like ok, AGAIN, I will give someone a break. Buy it cheap, I'll just liquidate it. Put a buy it now of $800 on it or best offer. After fees, you absolutely get hammered. If somebody graciously went with the buy it now, this was a $380 LOSS to me. MELT VALUE of the #$%# set is $500!! A beat up worn set would have to go for $500. One person offered $600. So if I was willing to lose $560, I could have sold the set. I gave up again. There's no way. I spent a lot of time buying coins over the years expecting the dollar value to at least maintain. When I go to sell something, I expect to at least break even. That's all I want. If I want a quick sell, I'm willing to lose a little. Anything popular seems to maintain a good, known value. But anything even a little off the beaten path, you might get a rude awakening if you go to sell right now. Moral of the story. Don't blow the farm on coins. As a buyer, you are in a bubble. Oblivious to and unaffected by whats going on with the market or what other people will pay for something. As a seller, you are at the mercy of the market. Then, the real market matters.[/QUOTE]
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