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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Volodya, post: 2289184, member: 19615&quot;]Great post Doug. I especially like this distinction: &quot;I called things that happened to the coin at the mint &#039;Conditions of Manufacture&#039; and things that happened after &#039;Conditions of Preservation&#039;.&quot; </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m very much a &quot;technical&quot; grader myself. I&#039;ll grade as EF any coin that is indeed EF regarding wear from circulation, no matter how poorly it was made, but I&#039;m careful to accurately describe what it looks like. Hopefully no one is misled if I describe some dreadful piece like this: &quot;EF, but weakly struck from worn dies with areas of flatness; somewhat corroded, especially the reverse.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t <i>think </i>anyone will expect a gem from that description![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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