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<p>[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 1909185, member: 44357"]I just wanted to say that although David Vagi is more than a little biased in his suggestions to use NGC in these videos, he is really great at what he does. I've been next to him multiple times at dealer's tables and have observed him picking through their inventory and tastefully pointing out what coins are fake. He does this for everyone: even dealers who don't have a single slabbed coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>As much as I disagree with their 1% fee for expensive ancients, many of their grades, and the inconvenience of slabs, these are decisions which often take place at a higher pay grade than David himself. He's spent literally hours talking with me about coins and a myriad of other topics and I have a massive amount of respect for him, and based on how some auction houses describe coins ("an absolutely invisible mark" when the coin is deeply gashed, nearly cut in half) I think NGC does help level the playing field to a large extent for the novice collector or those who aren't able to attend an auction in person.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They're definitely not legitimate, but it looks like they're better at ancients than US coins at least! I've seen some astoundingly badly graded US coins from them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They usually do, although sometimes with poor reception deep in the hall itself (the Donald E Stephens center usually has someone sponsor the Wifi so it's free, but I've rarely had reception anywhere past the first couple rows of tables).</p><p><br /></p><p>Dealers will often put coins on hold for you for an hour or so, if you need to think about them, but it's probably worth getting a wantlist together and finding what prices you'd want to pay upfront. Some dealers will be exorbitant and others will be extremely reasonable at shows. I haven't had any problems with authenticity but you can always buy a coin from a dealer, and ask someone else and if they think it's fake, any legitimate dealer will take it back.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 1909185, member: 44357"]I just wanted to say that although David Vagi is more than a little biased in his suggestions to use NGC in these videos, he is really great at what he does. I've been next to him multiple times at dealer's tables and have observed him picking through their inventory and tastefully pointing out what coins are fake. He does this for everyone: even dealers who don't have a single slabbed coin. As much as I disagree with their 1% fee for expensive ancients, many of their grades, and the inconvenience of slabs, these are decisions which often take place at a higher pay grade than David himself. He's spent literally hours talking with me about coins and a myriad of other topics and I have a massive amount of respect for him, and based on how some auction houses describe coins ("an absolutely invisible mark" when the coin is deeply gashed, nearly cut in half) I think NGC does help level the playing field to a large extent for the novice collector or those who aren't able to attend an auction in person. They're definitely not legitimate, but it looks like they're better at ancients than US coins at least! I've seen some astoundingly badly graded US coins from them. They usually do, although sometimes with poor reception deep in the hall itself (the Donald E Stephens center usually has someone sponsor the Wifi so it's free, but I've rarely had reception anywhere past the first couple rows of tables). Dealers will often put coins on hold for you for an hour or so, if you need to think about them, but it's probably worth getting a wantlist together and finding what prices you'd want to pay upfront. Some dealers will be exorbitant and others will be extremely reasonable at shows. I haven't had any problems with authenticity but you can always buy a coin from a dealer, and ask someone else and if they think it's fake, any legitimate dealer will take it back.[/QUOTE]
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