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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3235190, member: 85693"]A very interesting thread. The appearance/disappearance of silver puzzles me, ever since I was a little boy, when my grandma showed me how to pick out the silver from our pocket change - c. 1966. This is probably when I started collecting coins. I still have her hoard of silver dollars, culled from circulation when she worked at a ticket-taker in a movie theater in Wabash, Indiana c. 1959 - a surprising number of cartwheels were moving through the economy, contrary to what the sources usually state. </p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, a couple days ago I fell down a Wikipedia wormhole and landed on the article for Danegeld - which gave some specific numbers in regards to silver payments from the English to the Vikings - was this re-coined Roman silver? Silver didn't circulate in Britain much after the 3rd century (I think). </p><p><br /></p><p>So I thought this Danegeld might be on-topic and worth sharing (more so than my grandma's silver dollars) - here are some excerpts:</p><p><br /></p><p>"An English payment of 10,000 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_pound" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_pound" rel="nofollow">Roman pounds</a> (3,300 kg) of silver was first made in 991 following the Viking victory at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maldon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maldon" rel="nofollow">Battle of Maldon</a> in Essex, when Æthelred was advised by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigeric_the_Serious" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigeric_the_Serious" rel="nofollow">Sigeric the Serious</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Canterbury" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Canterbury" rel="nofollow">Archbishop of Canterbury</a>, and the aldermen of the south-western provinces to buy off the Vikings rather than continue the armed struggle. One manuscript of the <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Chronicle" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Chronicle" rel="nofollow">Anglo-Saxon Chronicle</a></i> said <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_I_of_Norway" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_I_of_Norway" rel="nofollow">Olav Tryggvason</a> led the Viking forces.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" rel="nofollow">[a]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-8" rel="nofollow">[7]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>In 994 the Danes, under King <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweyn_Forkbeard" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweyn_Forkbeard" rel="nofollow">Sweyn Forkbeard</a> and Olav Tryggvason, returned and laid siege to London. They were once more bought off, and the amount of silver paid impressed the Danes with the idea that it was more profitable to extort payments from the English than to take whatever booty they could plunder.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" rel="nofollow">[a]</a></p><p>Further payments were made in 1002, and in 1007 Æthelred bought two years peace with the Danes for 36,000 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight" rel="nofollow">troy pounds</a> (13,400 kg) of silver. In 1012, following the capture and murder of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the sack of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury" rel="nofollow">Canterbury</a>, the Danes were bought off with another 48,000 troy pounds (17,900 kg) of silver.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4" rel="nofollow">[a]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>In 1016 Sweyn Forkbeard's son, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great" rel="nofollow">Canute</a>, became King of England. After two years he felt sufficiently in control of his new kingdom to the extent of being able to pay off all but 40 ships of his invasion fleet, which were retained as a personal bodyguard, with a huge Danegeld of 72,000 troy pounds (26,900 kg) of silver collected nationally, plus a further 10,500 pounds (3,900 kg) of silver collected from London..."</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3235190, member: 85693"]A very interesting thread. The appearance/disappearance of silver puzzles me, ever since I was a little boy, when my grandma showed me how to pick out the silver from our pocket change - c. 1966. This is probably when I started collecting coins. I still have her hoard of silver dollars, culled from circulation when she worked at a ticket-taker in a movie theater in Wabash, Indiana c. 1959 - a surprising number of cartwheels were moving through the economy, contrary to what the sources usually state. Anyway, a couple days ago I fell down a Wikipedia wormhole and landed on the article for Danegeld - which gave some specific numbers in regards to silver payments from the English to the Vikings - was this re-coined Roman silver? Silver didn't circulate in Britain much after the 3rd century (I think). So I thought this Danegeld might be on-topic and worth sharing (more so than my grandma's silver dollars) - here are some excerpts: "An English payment of 10,000 [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_pound']Roman pounds[/URL] (3,300 kg) of silver was first made in 991 following the Viking victory at the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maldon']Battle of Maldon[/URL] in Essex, when Æthelred was advised by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigeric_the_Serious']Sigeric the Serious[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Canterbury']Archbishop of Canterbury[/URL], and the aldermen of the south-western provinces to buy off the Vikings rather than continue the armed struggle. One manuscript of the [I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Chronicle']Anglo-Saxon Chronicle[/URL][/I] said [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_I_of_Norway']Olav Tryggvason[/URL] led the Viking forces.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4'][a][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-8'][7][/URL] In 994 the Danes, under King [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweyn_Forkbeard']Sweyn Forkbeard[/URL] and Olav Tryggvason, returned and laid siege to London. They were once more bought off, and the amount of silver paid impressed the Danes with the idea that it was more profitable to extort payments from the English than to take whatever booty they could plunder.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4'][a][/URL] Further payments were made in 1002, and in 1007 Æthelred bought two years peace with the Danes for 36,000 [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight']troy pounds[/URL] (13,400 kg) of silver. In 1012, following the capture and murder of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the sack of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury']Canterbury[/URL], the Danes were bought off with another 48,000 troy pounds (17,900 kg) of silver.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#cite_note-asc1-4'][a][/URL] In 1016 Sweyn Forkbeard's son, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great']Canute[/URL], became King of England. After two years he felt sufficiently in control of his new kingdom to the extent of being able to pay off all but 40 ships of his invasion fleet, which were retained as a personal bodyguard, with a huge Danegeld of 72,000 troy pounds (26,900 kg) of silver collected nationally, plus a further 10,500 pounds (3,900 kg) of silver collected from London..." [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld[/url][/QUOTE]
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