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<p>[QUOTE="illini420, post: 1087697, member: 19423"]not afraid of PCGS or NGC here.</p><p> </p><p>But it does seem that when you send a coin in for crossover that a closer look will be taken at the coin as well as the grade on the current holder's label. There is a good reason for this however. If you sent them in as crossovers, I assume that you requested a minimum grade on the coins, either to cross into a PCGS holder at the same grade as the current holder, or maybe a grade lower? Even if you asked PCGS to cross the coins into a PCGS holder at "any grade" you are still asking them to cross the coins at a "grade." </p><p> </p><p>So, the first thing PCGS must do is look at the coin in the current holder to determine if the coin is "gradable" according to their standards. To do so, they must view/grade the coin while in the other company's holder. That isn't always to do as some holders hide the edges of the coins and sometimes the plastic of the holders can be quite scratched up. Accordingly, if PCGS can't tell for sure that coin will cross at the requested grade or can't tell that the coin is gradable in the first place, they will not crack it out and it'll get sent back. That doesn't necessarily mean you had a bad coin or that the coin really wouldn't grade high enough, it may just mean that PCGS couldn't tell for sure while the coin was in the old holder and decided not to risk cracking it out to be sure. </p><p> </p><p>For example, if you send them a toned coin in an NGC holder that has the plastic all scratched up, PCGS may not be able to get a real good look at the surfaces to determine whether or not the coin has been cleaned. So PCGS will likely be cautious and err on the side of not crossing it. If they took the risk and cracked it out to see the coin raw, they may find a great coin and put it in one of their holders, but if they cracked it and did see some cleaning or other problem, they can't just put it back in the old NGC holder.</p><p> </p><p>Of course, once PCGS determines the coin in the old holder is gradable under their standard, and assuming you asked it to cross at any grade, I believe the coin will then be cracked out and given to the graders in a clear plastic coin flip w/o any info regarding the previous grade. So your coin does get a fair grading by the graders... But it has to pass that first step of being gradable in order to get cracked out.</p><p> </p><p>So yeah, on a crossover PCGS graders will look at the grade on the older holder, but they pretty much have to do so to determine if the coin is gradable in the first place. If you know for sure your coins are ok, then sending them in raw would give PCGS a better look at the coins, but all the risk of cracking would be yours.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="illini420, post: 1087697, member: 19423"]not afraid of PCGS or NGC here. But it does seem that when you send a coin in for crossover that a closer look will be taken at the coin as well as the grade on the current holder's label. There is a good reason for this however. If you sent them in as crossovers, I assume that you requested a minimum grade on the coins, either to cross into a PCGS holder at the same grade as the current holder, or maybe a grade lower? Even if you asked PCGS to cross the coins into a PCGS holder at "any grade" you are still asking them to cross the coins at a "grade." So, the first thing PCGS must do is look at the coin in the current holder to determine if the coin is "gradable" according to their standards. To do so, they must view/grade the coin while in the other company's holder. That isn't always to do as some holders hide the edges of the coins and sometimes the plastic of the holders can be quite scratched up. Accordingly, if PCGS can't tell for sure that coin will cross at the requested grade or can't tell that the coin is gradable in the first place, they will not crack it out and it'll get sent back. That doesn't necessarily mean you had a bad coin or that the coin really wouldn't grade high enough, it may just mean that PCGS couldn't tell for sure while the coin was in the old holder and decided not to risk cracking it out to be sure. For example, if you send them a toned coin in an NGC holder that has the plastic all scratched up, PCGS may not be able to get a real good look at the surfaces to determine whether or not the coin has been cleaned. So PCGS will likely be cautious and err on the side of not crossing it. If they took the risk and cracked it out to see the coin raw, they may find a great coin and put it in one of their holders, but if they cracked it and did see some cleaning or other problem, they can't just put it back in the old NGC holder. Of course, once PCGS determines the coin in the old holder is gradable under their standard, and assuming you asked it to cross at any grade, I believe the coin will then be cracked out and given to the graders in a clear plastic coin flip w/o any info regarding the previous grade. So your coin does get a fair grading by the graders... But it has to pass that first step of being gradable in order to get cracked out. So yeah, on a crossover PCGS graders will look at the grade on the older holder, but they pretty much have to do so to determine if the coin is gradable in the first place. If you know for sure your coins are ok, then sending them in raw would give PCGS a better look at the coins, but all the risk of cracking would be yours.[/QUOTE]
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