Bulbinus - Anything wrong?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Is there anything wrong with this coin? I wasn't sure so I didn't go in 'big' and I wound up missing this 'Bulbinus' by 50 cents. What do you think?

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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

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  4. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @dougsmit
    I did look there, but I didn't find anything similar.
    My 'hesitation' comes from 'lack of knowledge' not from an 'abundance of knowledge', and (at my age) spending money usually makes me 'fearful'.
    I can't, but I was wondering if anyone else could find anything wrong with the coin, so I wouldn't feel so bad at 'missing' it.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I certainly cam't say with any certainty, but something doesn't look right to me.
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Unsure, just pass. Even if it turned out to be real later on, lick the wound and move on. At least you'd know you avoided what may be a fake at the time.

    Other coins will pop up.
     
  7. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    This appears to be an obvious fake, the style is completely wrong. My question is, how could you bid on a coin like this unless you know the coin or you know the seller? How much did this end up selling for?
     
  8. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @Volodya My bid was $30 and it sold for $30.50. (I figured that $30 was enough to bid without any 'certainty of legitimacy'.)
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Lets get real here. A genuine Balbinus denarius in EF with poor centering and blotchy tone is not a $30 item. Thousands of people look at eBay. If an even slightly adventurous dealer saw it on eBay he would have bid over $31 and would sell it to someone who knew less than you and suspected nothing.
    A coin that strikes everyone as even 'possibly' real would have hit $300+. You got lucky.
    We are wasting our time here over and over again unless there is a good answer to that question.
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I'm no expert. Has anyone seen a genuine Balbinus denarius this far off center? I have no but does that mean anything? Same question for G 1 & 2, Pupienus and G3 Caesar. Who threw out the bad strikes? Was it the mintmasters in 238 or dealers in the last 100 years who saw no market for slightly defective rarities?
     
  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    A 30 second look at the Forvm fake reports would identify this reverse die as having been created by Lipanoff. There are several with a matching reverse dies in silver and gold there. What I find interesting is that the obverse is new to me and isn't the usual Lipanoff obverse die. It looks more like the Slavey obverse.
     
  12. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    The fake dirt, toning and scrapes go a long way trying to cover things up on the obverse but that Victory reverse is an instant giveaway, yuck!

    No Victory reverse but here's my example proclaiming Balbinus and Pupienus BFF's.

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