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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 4770898, member: 77413"]Here are a few more posts related to building the type set.</p><p><br /></p><p>From <font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4726874/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4726874/">Let's see your newest acquisitions!</a></b></font>:</p><blockquote><p>This may be frustrating. I bought this for the new Type Set I am building, but it is too nice to break out for an album. NGC MS65 RB in an old holder.</p><p><br /></p><p>The seller reports that this is most likely from <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/a-history-of-major-us-hoards-randall-hoard" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/a-history-of-major-us-hoards-randall-hoard" rel="nofollow">the Randall Hoard</a>, found buried underneath a railway platform in 1868. (The article says 1878, but that is certainly a typo, because they cite a reference to the find dated 1869.)</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-full-21-gif.1157669/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-obverse-25-jpg.1157670/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-reverse-25-jpg.1157671/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Note:</b> I still have not broken this out. Another poster suggested that any slabbed coin that was too nice for the type set should be sold, and the proceeds used to buy something more appropriate (and maybe something additional!) I may still do that. But it's sooo pretty!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>From <font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4730081/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4730081/">Let's see your newest acquisitions!</a></b></font>:</p><blockquote><p>This 1835 Classic Head half cent marked the end of that design, except for some proofs struck in 1836. [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER] provided this delightful example for my type set.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-full-11-gif.1158064/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-obverse-15-jpg.1158072/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-reverse-05-jpg.1158073/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>This looks nice next to the other Half Cent in the set.</p></blockquote><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/b0606202-7524-4786-b047-9bb1e3344d88-jpeg.1158074/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The 1855 Coronet Half Cent may be seen in more detail in post <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1279#post-4175747" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1279#post-4175747">#25575</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another post from <font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4735131/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4735131/">Let's see your newest acquisitions!</a></b></font>:</p><blockquote><p>Next addition for the type set is this 1835 Capped Bust dime, also suggested and provided by [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER]. We make this about an XF45.</p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-full-01-gif.1158554/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-obverse-05-jpg.1158555/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-reverse-05-jpg.1158556/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>The row of dimes is starting to fill up, giving a clue to its eventual appearance.</p></blockquote><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/7dd7669e-0965-4964-a4c5-bc0e2f4eae92-jpeg.1158557/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The 1877-CC Liberty Seated dime was shown in post <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-470#post-4196639" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-470#post-4196639">#9399</a>, the 1912 Barber was shown in post <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-270#post-2669702#post-2669702" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-270#post-2669702#post-2669702">#5400</a>, and the 1938-S Mercury was shown in post <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1302#post-4515516" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1302#post-4515516">#26035</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Originally posted in <font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4739603/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4739603/">Let's see your newest acquisitions!</a></b></font>:</p><blockquote><p>The acquisitions for the type set will slow down soon, but the newest addition is this 1876-S chopmarked Trade Dollar. It was graded Unc Details by NGC.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe someone can explain to me how this works. Is it Details <i>because </i>it is chopmarked, or is a chopmarked coin OK, but then Detailed for some unexplained reason? The chop mark is nestled in the breast feathers of the eagle. The feathers and the mark are both crisp and clean. I really like the mark and the bit of history it brings with the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whatever the case, it allowed me to get this at 1/5 or less of the NGC price guide for MS64. The detail is great and the chopmark is terrific. While there was an initial concern that the coin might be too dark (based on the seller’s photos), it turned out to be a beautiful mild gray.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-full-01-gif.1158864/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-obverse-05-jpg.1158865/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-reverse-05-jpg.1158866/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>Since the coin will always regrade at least as high as MS Details, I had no qualms about taking it out of the holder and giving it a new home in the Type album.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/06c9fdd2-2c2d-4fdb-a4ad-84996fa5b13c-jpeg.1158867/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>Here it is in its happy home, getting the appreciation it deserves.</p></blockquote><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/f200b596-aa68-4a6c-9776-4a47f83d25d7-jpeg.1158868/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Note:</b> Since I made this original post, I found out that PCGS and NGC will handle chopmarked Trade dollars differently. NGC only gives them an Unc Details grade, while PCGS will straight grade them with a "Chopmark" notation. This worked out to my advantage since this was NGC graded and treated like MS60. Why anyone would send this to NGC is a mystery. "Unc" tells you absolutely nothing about its condition, and the price reflects that. Instead, you could send it to PCGS and get MS64-65 <i>with</i> the very interesting chopmark.</p><p><br /></p><p>The chopmark is a badge of honor in my book, not post-mint damage. The coin was struck to be sent to the Orient for trade. This coin did indeed go to China, where a merchant weighed and certified it, then stamped it with a seal of approval for trade. Based on my reading, it was then probably put into a bag and went from merchant to merchant as part of a much larger payment. At some point a dealer took the trip over there and retrieved it, bringing it back to the United States. So it is clearly uncirculated, at least like Morgan dollars are - it went into a bag and stayed there.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have to think NGC has it wrong - chopmarked Trade dollars prove they were overseas and came back with a proof of their interesting history.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Next from <font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4757751/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4757751/">Let's see your newest acquisitions!</a></b></font>:</p><blockquote><p>A very attractive 3-cent nickel has joined the type set. Again, [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER] gets credit for finding this one and bringing it to my attention. This sports a really nice strike on the reverse, with clear and sharp lines within the Roman numerals. The hair detail around the ear is sharp and clear. And the coin retains residual luster.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are also clash marks on the front outlining the wreath. I think they probably came from a different die than we see used on the reverse, since it is pretty clean. If the same die marriage was still together, I would expect the back to have an impression of the front on it, but it doesn't seem to. So maybe they changed out the reverse die for some reason?</p><p><br /></p><p>(I have four more coins for the type set from John to post over the next few days.)</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-full-01-gif.1160811/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-obverse-05-jpg.1160812/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-reverse-05-jpg.1160813/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>Edit: [USER=92655]@Randy Abercrombie[/USER] - this MS example was only $60 and is going into the album instead of breaking out one of my proofs. You may want to do the same!</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To be continued later in this thread...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 4770898, member: 77413"]Here are a few more posts related to building the type set. From [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4726874/']Let's see your newest acquisitions![/URL][/B][/SIZE]: [INDENT]This may be frustrating. I bought this for the new Type Set I am building, but it is too nice to break out for an album. NGC MS65 RB in an old holder. The seller reports that this is most likely from [URL='https://www.pcgs.com/news/a-history-of-major-us-hoards-randall-hoard']the Randall Hoard[/URL], found buried underneath a railway platform in 1868. (The article says 1878, but that is certainly a typo, because they cite a reference to the find dated 1869.)[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-full-21-gif.1157669/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-obverse-25-jpg.1157670/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/01c-1820-reverse-25-jpg.1157671/[/IMG] [B]Note:[/B] I still have not broken this out. Another poster suggested that any slabbed coin that was too nice for the type set should be sold, and the proceeds used to buy something more appropriate (and maybe something additional!) I may still do that. But it's sooo pretty! From [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4730081/']Let's see your newest acquisitions![/URL][/B][/SIZE]: [INDENT]This 1835 Classic Head half cent marked the end of that design, except for some proofs struck in 1836. [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER] provided this delightful example for my type set.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-full-11-gif.1158064/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-obverse-15-jpg.1158072/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/0-5c-1835-reverse-05-jpg.1158073/[/IMG] [INDENT]This looks nice next to the other Half Cent in the set.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/b0606202-7524-4786-b047-9bb1e3344d88-jpeg.1158074/[/IMG] The 1855 Coronet Half Cent may be seen in more detail in post [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1279#post-4175747']#25575[/URL]. Another post from [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4735131/']Let's see your newest acquisitions![/URL][/B][/SIZE]: [INDENT]Next addition for the type set is this 1835 Capped Bust dime, also suggested and provided by [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER]. We make this about an XF45. [/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-full-01-gif.1158554/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-obverse-05-jpg.1158555/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/10c-1835-reverse-05-jpg.1158556/[/IMG] [INDENT]The row of dimes is starting to fill up, giving a clue to its eventual appearance.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/7dd7669e-0965-4964-a4c5-bc0e2f4eae92-jpeg.1158557/[/IMG] The 1877-CC Liberty Seated dime was shown in post [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-470#post-4196639']#9399[/URL], the 1912 Barber was shown in post [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-lead-picture-post.117997/page-270#post-2669702#post-2669702']#5400[/URL], and the 1938-S Mercury was shown in post [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1302#post-4515516']#26035[/URL]. Originally posted in [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4739603/']Let's see your newest acquisitions![/URL][/B][/SIZE]: [INDENT]The acquisitions for the type set will slow down soon, but the newest addition is this 1876-S chopmarked Trade Dollar. It was graded Unc Details by NGC. Maybe someone can explain to me how this works. Is it Details [I]because [/I]it is chopmarked, or is a chopmarked coin OK, but then Detailed for some unexplained reason? The chop mark is nestled in the breast feathers of the eagle. The feathers and the mark are both crisp and clean. I really like the mark and the bit of history it brings with the coin. Whatever the case, it allowed me to get this at 1/5 or less of the NGC price guide for MS64. The detail is great and the chopmark is terrific. While there was an initial concern that the coin might be too dark (based on the seller’s photos), it turned out to be a beautiful mild gray.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-full-01-gif.1158864/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-obverse-05-jpg.1158865/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/s-1-1876-s-reverse-05-jpg.1158866/[/IMG] [INDENT]Since the coin will always regrade at least as high as MS Details, I had no qualms about taking it out of the holder and giving it a new home in the Type album.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/06c9fdd2-2c2d-4fdb-a4ad-84996fa5b13c-jpeg.1158867/[/IMG] [INDENT]Here it is in its happy home, getting the appreciation it deserves.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/f200b596-aa68-4a6c-9776-4a47f83d25d7-jpeg.1158868/[/IMG] [B]Note:[/B] Since I made this original post, I found out that PCGS and NGC will handle chopmarked Trade dollars differently. NGC only gives them an Unc Details grade, while PCGS will straight grade them with a "Chopmark" notation. This worked out to my advantage since this was NGC graded and treated like MS60. Why anyone would send this to NGC is a mystery. "Unc" tells you absolutely nothing about its condition, and the price reflects that. Instead, you could send it to PCGS and get MS64-65 [I]with[/I] the very interesting chopmark. The chopmark is a badge of honor in my book, not post-mint damage. The coin was struck to be sent to the Orient for trade. This coin did indeed go to China, where a merchant weighed and certified it, then stamped it with a seal of approval for trade. Based on my reading, it was then probably put into a bag and went from merchant to merchant as part of a much larger payment. At some point a dealer took the trip over there and retrieved it, bringing it back to the United States. So it is clearly uncirculated, at least like Morgan dollars are - it went into a bag and stayed there. I have to think NGC has it wrong - chopmarked Trade dollars prove they were overseas and came back with a proof of their interesting history. Next from [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4757751/']Let's see your newest acquisitions![/URL][/B][/SIZE]: [INDENT]A very attractive 3-cent nickel has joined the type set. Again, [USER=43130]@C-B-D[/USER] gets credit for finding this one and bringing it to my attention. This sports a really nice strike on the reverse, with clear and sharp lines within the Roman numerals. The hair detail around the ear is sharp and clear. And the coin retains residual luster. There are also clash marks on the front outlining the wreath. I think they probably came from a different die than we see used on the reverse, since it is pretty clean. If the same die marriage was still together, I would expect the back to have an impression of the front on it, but it doesn't seem to. So maybe they changed out the reverse die for some reason? (I have four more coins for the type set from John to post over the next few days.)[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-full-01-gif.1160811/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-obverse-05-jpg.1160812/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/03cn-1866-reverse-05-jpg.1160813/[/IMG] [INDENT]Edit: [USER=92655]@Randy Abercrombie[/USER] - this MS example was only $60 and is going into the album instead of breaking out one of my proofs. You may want to do the same![/INDENT] To be continued later in this thread...[/QUOTE]
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