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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2633451, member: 24314"]<b><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">This is the typical perfect coin you'll encounter in an advanced grading class.</span></b> Note the opinions of our expert dealers and collectors here range from VG to VF. How can that be? What is the correct grade? Actually, each of you is 100% correct because grading is subjective. That is not a weasel-out. It is 100% true and each of you that have given a reason for your grade is correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some things to consider when grading this coin (remember, NO ONE HERE IS WRONG):</p><p><br /></p><p>1. The coin was struck in Denver. When the original coin dropped off the press it was probably (I'm 90% sure) missing the tip of the horn. Now forget the reverse for a second. One member posted the obverse of a VF 25 from a grading site. Compare the details of that obverse with the OP's coin obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Everything in books and these online photo grade sites are to be used as <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">GUIDES</span>. They are not set in stone and very often have little to do with most of the coins we find in the "real world." Does that make the commercial marketplace wrong? I'll put my money on the market makers and TPGS rather than photo guides.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. One member wonders when the horn does not matter (EDIT <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />). To paraphrase several <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">CURRENT</span> grading guides for VF Buffalo nickels: "Point of horn is not always visible." "Typically, in the marketplace the horn is not full."</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Many dealers insist on a full complete horn before they pay VF money. Nevertheless, look at what they SELL as VF.</p><p><br /></p><p>5. One of my favorite things to do as a YN in the 1960's (not much luck anymore today as dealers are more knowledgeable) was to purchase <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">fully lustrous, flatly struck</span>, Branch Mint Buffalo nickels (Unc's and Choice AU's) with <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">only a hint</span></b> of the horn's base visible that were graded G to VG and priced for a few dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p>6. EDIT Note: The luster in the field of the PCGS coin is missing on the OP's.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>By any grading guide the OP's coin is a FINE</b>. When I opened this thread and saw the first two opinions from [USER=73165]@Paul M.[/USER] and [USER=4920]@eddiespin[/USER] was VF-20, I thought way to go, you both nailed a very tricky coin. I almost closed the thread and moved on.</p><p>Wish I had. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am at the bottom of the VF-20 grade and IMO <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">the three of us</span> are just as correct as the opinions of Fine and VG. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2633451, member: 24314"][B][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]This is the typical perfect coin you'll encounter in an advanced grading class.[/COLOR][/B] Note the opinions of our expert dealers and collectors here range from VG to VF. How can that be? What is the correct grade? Actually, each of you is 100% correct because grading is subjective. That is not a weasel-out. It is 100% true and each of you that have given a reason for your grade is correct. Here are some things to consider when grading this coin (remember, NO ONE HERE IS WRONG): 1. The coin was struck in Denver. When the original coin dropped off the press it was probably (I'm 90% sure) missing the tip of the horn. Now forget the reverse for a second. One member posted the obverse of a VF 25 from a grading site. Compare the details of that obverse with the OP's coin obverse. 2. Everything in books and these online photo grade sites are to be used as [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]GUIDES[/COLOR]. They are not set in stone and very often have little to do with most of the coins we find in the "real world." Does that make the commercial marketplace wrong? I'll put my money on the market makers and TPGS rather than photo guides. 3. One member wonders when the horn does not matter (EDIT :angelic:). To paraphrase several [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]CURRENT[/COLOR] grading guides for VF Buffalo nickels: "Point of horn is not always visible." "Typically, in the marketplace the horn is not full." 4. Many dealers insist on a full complete horn before they pay VF money. Nevertheless, look at what they SELL as VF. 5. One of my favorite things to do as a YN in the 1960's (not much luck anymore today as dealers are more knowledgeable) was to purchase [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]fully lustrous, flatly struck[/COLOR], Branch Mint Buffalo nickels (Unc's and Choice AU's) with [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]only a hint[/COLOR][/B] of the horn's base visible that were graded G to VG and priced for a few dollars. 6. EDIT Note: The luster in the field of the PCGS coin is missing on the OP's. [B]By any grading guide the OP's coin is a FINE[/B]. When I opened this thread and saw the first two opinions from [USER=73165]@Paul M.[/USER] and [USER=4920]@eddiespin[/USER] was VF-20, I thought way to go, you both nailed a very tricky coin. I almost closed the thread and moved on. Wish I had. :( I am at the bottom of the VF-20 grade and IMO [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]the three of us[/COLOR] are just as correct as the opinions of Fine and VG. :p:D;)[/QUOTE]
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