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<p>[QUOTE="charley, post: 24718925, member: 5372"]Maybe the problem is not a U.S. issue. Wallace and Hoebel research traced it to the French fur trappers. They had never seen a NA Bison, and were familiar with African and Asian Buffalos and called the NA Bison "Boeuf". The French fur trappers traded with the Hunkpapa, and interestingly, there were African fur trappers working with the French doing the same, and the Swahili language had a translation of the African water buffalo similar to the Comanche pronunciation of kuutsuu. Kuutsuu translated into thathajka in Hunkpapa. The Spanish root was "Bufalo" and interaction with the Comanche and Apache (never pleasant) passed the word along, , and the Comanche pronunciation was thaauaa and the NA Indian word for the Black fur traders was phonetically "tauaaooveaeetaa thathaj". Boofaauu was the closest Phonetic combined sound that became the easiest to use in trade...there was no phonetic "L" sound in Comanche really, so Boofaauu was sort of bastardized and took on the Spanish root of boofaaluu.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, French to Swahili to Comanche/Apache/Hunkpapa/Spanish derivitive combination.</p><p><br /></p><p>But of course it can only happen in America, so....maybe you are right, after all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="charley, post: 24718925, member: 5372"]Maybe the problem is not a U.S. issue. Wallace and Hoebel research traced it to the French fur trappers. They had never seen a NA Bison, and were familiar with African and Asian Buffalos and called the NA Bison "Boeuf". The French fur trappers traded with the Hunkpapa, and interestingly, there were African fur trappers working with the French doing the same, and the Swahili language had a translation of the African water buffalo similar to the Comanche pronunciation of kuutsuu. Kuutsuu translated into thathajka in Hunkpapa. The Spanish root was "Bufalo" and interaction with the Comanche and Apache (never pleasant) passed the word along, , and the Comanche pronunciation was thaauaa and the NA Indian word for the Black fur traders was phonetically "tauaaooveaeetaa thathaj". Boofaauu was the closest Phonetic combined sound that became the easiest to use in trade...there was no phonetic "L" sound in Comanche really, so Boofaauu was sort of bastardized and took on the Spanish root of boofaaluu. So, French to Swahili to Comanche/Apache/Hunkpapa/Spanish derivitive combination. But of course it can only happen in America, so....maybe you are right, after all.[/QUOTE]
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