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<p>[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 8351724, member: 83845"]I started noticing last year that many of my purchases tend to fall into broadly definable themes or categories, whether I consciously seek those categories out or not. This was true for both my budget purchases as well as my more expensive coins (I aim to acquire a good balance of both for my collection <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).</p><p><br /></p><p>Since I think the forum could use a good pile on thread in the spirit of frivolous fun here is what I have in mind. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><ul> <li>Think of a theme or sub-theme in your collection and pick two representative coins from that theme: a budget coin and a non-budget coin.</li> <li>For my budget examples I decided to define a budget coin as less than $100 so I could cheat and pull from my <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/curtisimo’s-2021-budget-top-10-1-to-100.389977/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/curtisimo’s-2021-budget-top-10-1-to-100.389977/">Budget Top 10</a> <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-top-10-index.351239/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-top-10-index.351239/">lists</a>. What we consider budget purchases will vary from collector to collector so feel free to choose based on your own criteria.</li> <li>I defined my non-budget examples as coins that were $100 or more which I was willing to bid or offer aggressively on. I haven’t pulled exact numbers but I believe that all of my non-budget coins are at least $200 more expensive than their corresponding budget coin. Again, feel free to define your own criteria here as well.</li> <li>Post both coins and write a bit about why you like coins of that theme and anything special about either example.</li> </ul><p>I noted during this exercise just how much value and interest can be had at great value.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #404040"><b><u>Cavalry vs Infantry (Battle)</u></b></span></font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481810[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Constantius II</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Centenionalis, Heraclea mint, struck ca. AD 350-355</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 22.5 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 5.3 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG; Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO; Γ in left field, SMH (?) in exergue; Helmeted soldier spearing fallen horseman who is reaching back. Hair in braids, no beard. Plain shields.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC 82 Heraclea (?)</font></p><p><font size="3">Purchased from Minotaur Coins</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481809[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Kings of Paeonia</font></p><p><font size="3">Patraos (c. 335-315 BC)</font></p><p><font size="3">AR Tetradrachm, mint at Astibos or Damastion. </font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 24 mm, 1 h</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 12.93 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: Laureate head of Apollo right</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: Warrior on horse rearing r., spearing enemy warrior who defends with shield and spear. </font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: Paeonian Hoard 493-9; HGC 3, 148</font></p><p><br /></p><p>These two coins just beg to be shown side by side. My falling horseman cost less than $10 last year and I couldn’t be happier with the detail. Though these coins are separated by hundreds of years (and hundreds of dollars <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) the artistic similarity is striking... though reversed in outcome!</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #404040"><u><b>Mythology</b></u></span></font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481813[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">PISIDIA, Etenna</font></p><p><font size="3">AE19, Etenna mint, struck ca. 1st century BC</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 19.3 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.32 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: Naked nymph/woman standing to front, legs crossed, entwined by serpent; at her feet to left, a vase.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: E-T, sickle-shaped knife.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: SNG Cop 146</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex Minotaur Coins</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481812[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Crete, Gortyna</font></p><p><font size="3">AR stater, struck ca. 330-270 BC</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 27.5 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 11.58 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: Europa seated right in lefeless plane-tree, holding branches of tree with both hands</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: Bull standing right, head turned back, scratching muzzle with hoof.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex Karl Kress (before 1969)</font></p><p><br /></p><p>The Etenna is fascinating because it shows a scene from a myth that was well-known in antiquity but is lost to us today. I wrote more about it <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-group-of-interesting-coins-greek-edition.384390/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-group-of-interesting-coins-greek-edition.384390/">here</a>. The myth obviously involved a female being attacked by a snake and a sickle blade wielding hero but other than these details it is a mystery. This coin was less than $40.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Europa coin on the other hand shows what might be one of the most well known myths of all time; Zues’s abduction of the Phoenician princess Europa! No explanation needed but if you’re interested I did do a write up <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/greek-stater-of-gortyna-europa-and-bull.378722/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/greek-stater-of-gortyna-europa-and-bull.378722/">here</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #404040"><u><b>Architecture</b></u></span></font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481820[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Pamphylia, Perge</font></p><p><font size="3">AE16, Perge mint, struck ca. 50-30 BC</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 16.6 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.9 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: Cult statue of Artemis Pergaea facing within distyle temple, facing eagle in pediment</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: ΑΡΤΕΜΙΔΟΣ ΠΕΡΓΑΙΑΣ, Bow and quiver</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: SNG France 373-8</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex Savoca Coins 111th Blue Auction (August 2021)</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481819[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Republican</font></p><p><font size="3">Q. Cassius Longinus, moneyer</font></p><p><font size="3">AR Denarius, Rome mint, struck 55 BC</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 20.2 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.95g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: Head of Libertas right, wearing hair collected into a knot, decorated with jewels, and falling down neck, and wearing single-drop earring and necklace of pendants; LIBERT upward to left, Q • CASSIVS downward to right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: Temple of Vesta, circular, surmounted by figure holding scepter and patera, flanked by antefixes; curule chair within; urn to left, tabella (voting tablet) [inscribed AC (Absolvo Condemno)] to right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: Crawford 428/2; Sydenham 918</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex Prof Dr Hildebrecht Hommel Collection, acquired from Hirsch, Auction 63 (July 1969), lot 2454; Ex Dr. Busso Peus Nachf., Auction 422 (April 26, 2018), lot 424 (part of); Ex Kölner Münzkabinet Auction 109, Lot 360 (November 16, 2018)</font></p><p><br /></p><p>My budget example shows a famous but <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cult-statue-of-perge-a-fascinating-architecture-type.388402/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cult-statue-of-perge-a-fascinating-architecture-type.388402/">lost temple of Artemis at Perge</a>. It cost less than $30. My RR denarius shows the Temple of Vesta in Rome whose ruins can still be seen in the forum today. The Vesta denarius also has a great <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/republican-denarius-that-has-it-all-great-story-interesting-type-and-old-provenance.389063/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/republican-denarius-that-has-it-all-great-story-interesting-type-and-old-provenance.389063/">story and provenance</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #404040"><b><u>Fine Style Portraits</u></b></span></font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481822[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Elagalabus (218-222) </font></p><p><font size="3">AR Denarius, Rome mint, struck AD 221.</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 19 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 2.84 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: IMP ANTONINVS PIVS AVG; draped and “horned” bust right</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: Rev. emperor standing left, sacrificing over altar, standard on either side </font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC IVB 51</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex Shea19 collection, Ex CNG E-Auction 465, Lot 722 (part of), Ex Mike Vosper FPL 112 (11 March 2000), no. 35a</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1481821[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Faustina II, daughter of Antoninus Pius and wife of Marcus Aurelius </font></p><p><font size="3">AE Sestertius, Rome mint, struck ca. AD 156</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 33mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 26.11g </font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F; Draped bust right </font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: S-C; Diana standing left, holding bow and arrow</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: C 206; RIC A. Pius 1383; BMCRE 2194</font></p><p><font size="3">From a European Collection formed in the 1980s with tag</font></p><p><br /></p><p>It’s hard to really consider my Elagabalus coin a budget coin because it was a highly desired type for me that literally compromises on nothing (great style / preservation / toning / provenance / historical interest). It’s possibly one of my 10 favorite denarii. However, it does just meet my sub $100 requirement so what the heck. The portrait here is what drew me to the coin. Wonderful style and a clear <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-elagabalus-really-wearing-a-desiccated-bull-phallus-on-his-head.385688/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-elagabalus-really-wearing-a-desiccated-bull-phallus-on-his-head.385688/">“horn” for good measure</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Faustina II portrait is quite possibly my favorite portrait in my collection. Glorious style and a sense of realism that does credit to the engraver’s skill.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">...............................</p><p><br /></p><p>So what do you think? Should we give this a go? Post your Budget vs non-budget examples from the same theme.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 8351724, member: 83845"]I started noticing last year that many of my purchases tend to fall into broadly definable themes or categories, whether I consciously seek those categories out or not. This was true for both my budget purchases as well as my more expensive coins (I aim to acquire a good balance of both for my collection :)). Since I think the forum could use a good pile on thread in the spirit of frivolous fun here is what I have in mind. :woot: [LIST] [*]Think of a theme or sub-theme in your collection and pick two representative coins from that theme: a budget coin and a non-budget coin. [*]For my budget examples I decided to define a budget coin as less than $100 so I could cheat and pull from my [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/curtisimo’s-2021-budget-top-10-1-to-100.389977/']Budget Top 10[/URL] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-top-10-index.351239/']lists[/URL]. What we consider budget purchases will vary from collector to collector so feel free to choose based on your own criteria. [*]I defined my non-budget examples as coins that were $100 or more which I was willing to bid or offer aggressively on. I haven’t pulled exact numbers but I believe that all of my non-budget coins are at least $200 more expensive than their corresponding budget coin. Again, feel free to define your own criteria here as well. [*]Post both coins and write a bit about why you like coins of that theme and anything special about either example. [/LIST] I noted during this exercise just how much value and interest can be had at great value. [SIZE=7][COLOR=#404040][B][U]Cavalry vs Infantry (Battle)[/U][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481810[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Constantius II AE Centenionalis, Heraclea mint, struck ca. AD 350-355 Dia.: 22.5 mm Wt.: 5.3 g Obv.: DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG; Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev.: FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO; Γ in left field, SMH (?) in exergue; Helmeted soldier spearing fallen horseman who is reaching back. Hair in braids, no beard. Plain shields. Ref.: RIC 82 Heraclea (?) Purchased from Minotaur Coins[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481809[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Kings of Paeonia Patraos (c. 335-315 BC) AR Tetradrachm, mint at Astibos or Damastion. Dia.: 24 mm, 1 h Wt.: 12.93 g Obv.: Laureate head of Apollo right Rev.: Warrior on horse rearing r., spearing enemy warrior who defends with shield and spear. Ref.: Paeonian Hoard 493-9; HGC 3, 148[/SIZE] These two coins just beg to be shown side by side. My falling horseman cost less than $10 last year and I couldn’t be happier with the detail. Though these coins are separated by hundreds of years (and hundreds of dollars :greedy:) the artistic similarity is striking... though reversed in outcome! [SIZE=7][COLOR=#404040][U][B]Mythology[/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481813[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]PISIDIA, Etenna AE19, Etenna mint, struck ca. 1st century BC Dia.: 19.3 mm Wt.: 3.32 g Obv.: Naked nymph/woman standing to front, legs crossed, entwined by serpent; at her feet to left, a vase. Rev.: E-T, sickle-shaped knife. Ref.: SNG Cop 146 Ex Minotaur Coins[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481812[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Crete, Gortyna AR stater, struck ca. 330-270 BC Dia.: 27.5 mm Wt.: 11.58 g Obv.: Europa seated right in lefeless plane-tree, holding branches of tree with both hands Rev.: Bull standing right, head turned back, scratching muzzle with hoof. Ex Karl Kress (before 1969)[/SIZE] The Etenna is fascinating because it shows a scene from a myth that was well-known in antiquity but is lost to us today. I wrote more about it [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-group-of-interesting-coins-greek-edition.384390/']here[/URL]. The myth obviously involved a female being attacked by a snake and a sickle blade wielding hero but other than these details it is a mystery. This coin was less than $40. The Europa coin on the other hand shows what might be one of the most well known myths of all time; Zues’s abduction of the Phoenician princess Europa! No explanation needed but if you’re interested I did do a write up [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/greek-stater-of-gortyna-europa-and-bull.378722/']here[/URL]. [SIZE=7][COLOR=#404040][U][B]Architecture[/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481820[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Pamphylia, Perge AE16, Perge mint, struck ca. 50-30 BC Dia.: 16.6 mm Wt.: 3.9 g Obv.: Cult statue of Artemis Pergaea facing within distyle temple, facing eagle in pediment Rev.: ΑΡΤΕΜΙΔΟΣ ΠΕΡΓΑΙΑΣ, Bow and quiver Ref.: SNG France 373-8 Ex Savoca Coins 111th Blue Auction (August 2021)[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481819[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Republican Q. Cassius Longinus, moneyer AR Denarius, Rome mint, struck 55 BC Dia.: 20.2 mm Wt.: 3.95g Obv.: Head of Libertas right, wearing hair collected into a knot, decorated with jewels, and falling down neck, and wearing single-drop earring and necklace of pendants; LIBERT upward to left, Q • CASSIVS downward to right. Rev.: Temple of Vesta, circular, surmounted by figure holding scepter and patera, flanked by antefixes; curule chair within; urn to left, tabella (voting tablet) [inscribed AC (Absolvo Condemno)] to right. Ref.: Crawford 428/2; Sydenham 918 Ex Prof Dr Hildebrecht Hommel Collection, acquired from Hirsch, Auction 63 (July 1969), lot 2454; Ex Dr. Busso Peus Nachf., Auction 422 (April 26, 2018), lot 424 (part of); Ex Kölner Münzkabinet Auction 109, Lot 360 (November 16, 2018)[/SIZE] My budget example shows a famous but [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cult-statue-of-perge-a-fascinating-architecture-type.388402/']lost temple of Artemis at Perge[/URL]. It cost less than $30. My RR denarius shows the Temple of Vesta in Rome whose ruins can still be seen in the forum today. The Vesta denarius also has a great [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/republican-denarius-that-has-it-all-great-story-interesting-type-and-old-provenance.389063/']story and provenance[/URL]. [SIZE=7][COLOR=#404040][B][U]Fine Style Portraits[/U][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481822[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Elagalabus (218-222) AR Denarius, Rome mint, struck AD 221. Dia.: 19 mm Wt.: 2.84 g Obv.: IMP ANTONINVS PIVS AVG; draped and “horned” bust right Rev.: Rev. emperor standing left, sacrificing over altar, standard on either side Ref.: RIC IVB 51 Ex Shea19 collection, Ex CNG E-Auction 465, Lot 722 (part of), Ex Mike Vosper FPL 112 (11 March 2000), no. 35a[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1481821[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Faustina II, daughter of Antoninus Pius and wife of Marcus Aurelius AE Sestertius, Rome mint, struck ca. AD 156 Dia.: 33mm Wt.: 26.11g Obv.: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F; Draped bust right Rev.: S-C; Diana standing left, holding bow and arrow Ref.: C 206; RIC A. Pius 1383; BMCRE 2194 From a European Collection formed in the 1980s with tag[/SIZE] It’s hard to really consider my Elagabalus coin a budget coin because it was a highly desired type for me that literally compromises on nothing (great style / preservation / toning / provenance / historical interest). It’s possibly one of my 10 favorite denarii. However, it does just meet my sub $100 requirement so what the heck. The portrait here is what drew me to the coin. Wonderful style and a clear [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-elagabalus-really-wearing-a-desiccated-bull-phallus-on-his-head.385688/']“horn” for good measure[/URL]. The Faustina II portrait is quite possibly my favorite portrait in my collection. Glorious style and a sense of realism that does credit to the engraver’s skill. [CENTER]...............................[/CENTER] So what do you think? Should we give this a go? Post your Budget vs non-budget examples from the same theme.[/QUOTE]
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