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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3574205, member: 85693"]You beat me to the punch, Ryro - I was working on a reply... but here it is:</p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, I am not entirely convinced that PR = Vindex, if only because there is such a bewildering array of early Imperial countermarks. A full-blown scholarly hoard/die link study wasn't found by me on the Internet (which doesn't mean they don't exist, of course).</p><p><br /></p><p>However, there are a lot of sources for this online. Here are some that I found: </p><p><br /></p><p><b>From the Richard Baker article:</b> <a href="http://www.accla.org/actaaccla/baker2.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.accla.org/actaaccla/baker2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.accla.org/actaaccla/baker2.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Typical Countermarks of Category 3A.</p><p><img src="http://www.accla.org/images/rbcm19.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> Populus Romanus - The Roman People. This countermark was used by the rebels in Gaul under the leadership of Julius Vindex during the months of March through June of 68 CE. Used mostly upon dupondii and Asses.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The first two coins in Wildwinds under "Roman Imperial Coins of Civil Wars" show this countermark</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Here's a Vcoin listing with lots of information (an Antioch host coin)</b>:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/incitatus_coins/79/product/nero_ae_as_antioch_syria_pr_countermark_from_the_civil_war_of_6869_ad_rare/165705/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/incitatus_coins/79/product/nero_ae_as_antioch_syria_pr_countermark_from_the_civil_war_of_6869_ad_rare/165705/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/incitatus_coins/79/product/nero_ae_as_antioch_syria_pr_countermark_from_the_civil_war_of_6869_ad_rare/165705/Default.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>From FORVM with lots of information</b>:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/de/stores/forum_ancient_coins/62/product/agrippa_as_countermarked_for_galba_and_vindex_in_moesia_or_thrace_689_ad/1159516/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/de/stores/forum_ancient_coins/62/product/agrippa_as_countermarked_for_galba_and_vindex_in_moesia_or_thrace_689_ad/1159516/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/de/stores/forum_ancient_coins/62/product/agrippa_as_countermarked_for_galba_and_vindex_in_moesia_or_thrace_689_ad/1159516/Default.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>From the Museum of Roman Countermarks</b>:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.romancoins.info/CMK-vindex.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.romancoins.info/CMK-vindex.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.romancoins.info/CMK-vindex.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.romancoins.info/countermark-Richard-Baker.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.romancoins.info/countermark-Richard-Baker.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.romancoins.info/countermark-Richard-Baker.html</a> (the Richard Baker collection has several examples - they are arranged alphabetically by type: "PR" in this case.</p><p><br /></p><p>So that's where I got my attributions. The eBay seller noted this coin came from a lot he bought on a CNG auction. "This coin is part of a lot I bought on CNG Coins Auction 443 Lot 735" I haven't tracked down that auction - but he has several others (nicer ones) for sale now (for a lot more money). I noticed the $30 got scooped up this morning! I promise I have no connection to the seller except as a buyer (although a commission would be nice <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3574205, member: 85693"]You beat me to the punch, Ryro - I was working on a reply... but here it is: Yeah, I am not entirely convinced that PR = Vindex, if only because there is such a bewildering array of early Imperial countermarks. A full-blown scholarly hoard/die link study wasn't found by me on the Internet (which doesn't mean they don't exist, of course). However, there are a lot of sources for this online. Here are some that I found: [B]From the Richard Baker article:[/B] [URL]http://www.accla.org/actaaccla/baker2.html[/URL] Typical Countermarks of Category 3A. [IMG]http://www.accla.org/images/rbcm19.jpg[/IMG] Populus Romanus - The Roman People. This countermark was used by the rebels in Gaul under the leadership of Julius Vindex during the months of March through June of 68 CE. Used mostly upon dupondii and Asses. [B]The first two coins in Wildwinds under "Roman Imperial Coins of Civil Wars" show this countermark[/B]. [B]Here's a Vcoin listing with lots of information (an Antioch host coin)[/B]: [URL]https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/incitatus_coins/79/product/nero_ae_as_antioch_syria_pr_countermark_from_the_civil_war_of_6869_ad_rare/165705/Default.aspx[/URL] [B]From FORVM with lots of information[/B]: [URL]https://www.vcoins.com/de/stores/forum_ancient_coins/62/product/agrippa_as_countermarked_for_galba_and_vindex_in_moesia_or_thrace_689_ad/1159516/Default.aspx[/URL] [B]From the Museum of Roman Countermarks[/B]: [URL]http://www.romancoins.info/CMK-vindex.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.romancoins.info/countermark-Richard-Baker.html[/URL] (the Richard Baker collection has several examples - they are arranged alphabetically by type: "PR" in this case. So that's where I got my attributions. The eBay seller noted this coin came from a lot he bought on a CNG auction. "This coin is part of a lot I bought on CNG Coins Auction 443 Lot 735" I haven't tracked down that auction - but he has several others (nicer ones) for sale now (for a lot more money). I noticed the $30 got scooped up this morning! I promise I have no connection to the seller except as a buyer (although a commission would be nice :D).[/QUOTE]
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